"The future ain't what it used to be."

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Gosub is not so much a swear word at all since it implies the return linkage of the subroutine (the "sub" part) you are "going" to.

It's "GoTo" thats become passe and no longer used.

The equalivent "verb" or "control" statement to Gosub in COBOL is "Perform".

xBased languages use "Do" in calling a closed subroutine.

In Java and C++ which are Objected Oriented Development platforms, the term or it's equilavent is moot since the very technique itself is superceded by invoking instances of Classes.

But at the pure machine code level after it's been compiled, the action is controlled by the the same concept.

Object orientation is a conceptual paradigm, at the source code level, just as "Top Down Modular" was when "Gosub" was a common practice.

GoTo was merely the first control statement that was used for branching. As computers themselves became more sophisticated and powerful, automatic return linkage was built into the source code languages that forced the compiler to automatically return to the next statement after Gosub when the subroutine had completed firing.

Thus eliminating the "spaghetti" logic of "goto" code.

But all the dicipline of Object Oriented Programming (OOP) still doesn't keep some people from writing really crummy code.

 
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TimeTravel_0

Thanks again for your responses. The reason I'm asking details such as clothing and sunlight is because my film company is in the process of making a movie of your story and we just wanted to get some visual ideas.

But seeing that you are shy about the subject, we'll just have to be creative.

If you want to supply some more details about your daily life in 2036, let me know.

 
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time traveling guy...

I just wanted to ask if you know anyone in the future who is important who has the initials J.W....and if so perhaps you could name them? or him?...

heh, i made a riddle once...what clock is a clock that tells time only twice a day?

thought you were gone...guess i was in the wrong place...

time will tell, sooner or later, time will tell

 
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just like, famous people, off the top of your head...like war heroes, war tyrants, famous researchers, anything of the like....if nobody with initials JW...then anyone? just name some?

 
TT_0,

Besides doing the tape, will you be having spectators?

If you do, I'd like to see your machine. I will be in Florida visiting a loved one this Spring.

Where in Florida do you live?

Let me know.

-Javier C.

 
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Deviper and Wanderingsoul,

Thankyou for the high marks but I have no formal education in quantum physics. To tell you the truth I have not even read a full book on any technical subject. I often go through electronics books and physics books of various topics and skim them for knowlege that I have not gained. I am truelly as much an ametuer as anyone else here.

I have read a little on the subject of quantum physics but there is a lot that I do not know.

This is why I come here humbly to share my hypothesesis with others on this forum. I also consult formally educated physisists.

One reason I like confering on this forum is the fact that it is filled with all manners of peoples of different backgrounds and various points of views. Most of us are open minded in some respects and others are closed in some reaspects. All of this is valuable I believe if these traits are put together properly.

I have noted that Einstein came up with his theories in 1901 and 1905 this is before he went to college, Am I correct on this?

One other point to make is that many of the cool gadjets and theories that were created were done by those who were not formally educated which might have been one reason they were open minded.

Einstein was both a closed and open minded person it seems. And many open minds had to single handedly accomplished a great deal for technology during thier lives over a hundred years ago do to the fact that comunications between long distances was not as practical then as it is today.

Here on this forum I see there are hundreds of posts from many people with open minds able to comunicate with the whole world with nothing more then a key board, a telephone jack, and a computer. The point being that we can more then likely accomplish leaps and bounds more then the open minds a hundred years ago because comunication for us is much more palitable; not because we are any smarter then they were back then.

What does everyone think?

Edwin G. Schasteen

 
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Sir rgrunt,

I think Einstein went to school first.

I think an open mind is an empty mind.

I think we should master fith grade science before positing a grand unified field theory.

I think an ounce of fact is worth ton of speculation.

I think it is hard to know everything without knowing anything first.

I think you get the point.

And can't you think up a better handle than "rgrunt"?

 
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rgrunt

One of the bane's of formal education is cementing ways of thinking...although initially it can expand...

I find less tolerance for thinking out of the box in *highly educated* people rather than what I fondly call independent thinkers *little smile* If I were stuck on an island and had to choose *educated* vs. *independent* No brainer to be sure ?

Keep thinking out of the box rgrunt !! *applauding loudly*

Be safe and dream sweetly.

WS

 
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Shadow,

rgrunt is not posting a GUT, it is a theory. It is as vaid as any other. If you can disprove it, do so.

If rgrunt wants that to be his name, then that is his choice. He does sign his name if you care to look.

A Lot can gained with an once of fact and it can be helpful to speculate. That is where ideas come from.

Those ideas are the basis for inventions that make all we have now possible.

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TT_0 or time traveler....

please respond to my previously posted post?

thanks

 
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I think that the act of time-traveling removes one from the stream of events.

Let's say I go back to 1980. This is the original timeline:

---1980-----------2000

When I go back, a new timeline is created...

---1980-----------2000

\

\

\

\----------2000

...and the old one disappears. I still exist because the instant I appear in the past, I am in the new timeline.

---1980

\

\

\

\----------2000

I don't believe the theory that time-travelers fulfill their destined role in the past. If an old man tells me how to build a time machine, and I do, and when I get old, I tell my younger self how to build a time machine, where does the time machine come from?

 
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Hey Doc Brown!

took a look at your web site it is very interesting.wow, I see you have done a lot of research.

your link didnt work at first in your profile. then I realized you just typed it wrong.

should be .com/x_squared

(just to let you know..so others can view your site.. )

I like the music!!

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Doc brown, from your web site:

"If a time-traveler somehow got stranded in the past, he might have descendants. If this were the case with a lot of time-travelers, that would make our species appear older than it is."

I've often thought of this as a matter of fact.

Here is one for you....

What if a lonely time traveler got stuck way in the past something went wrong with his machine and it blew up after he managed to get out. lonely and depressed he knew he was never going to get back home.

Millions of years in the past he looked out over his horizon the closest thing he had to relate to were the apes nearby...

And I think you were suggesting there may be a time line where the dinosaurs never got destroyed but evolved and developed into a higher species. and then developed time travel.and then visited different world lines.??

you could probably take that a step further and try to imagine what a species would look like if you combined the DNA from different worldlines.

it seems like the further a species evolves they will eventually get into DNA manipulation and altering. creating new species to their own liking and after their own images.

I enjoyed reading all the info you have on your sight. especially the archaeological

pictures. I didnt get to read all of it I will have to go back to it later.

pamela

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I didn't say there was an alternate timeline in which the dinosaurs were intelligent. I said something even weirder-- that they were intelligent in this timeline (it's possible, because the velociraptor was as smart as a chimpanzee, and for us, it was only 5 million years from there).

 
Doc Brown:

While it does indeed seem that the velociraptor was quite intelligent, (as evidenced by it's proportionately sized brain cavity found in the fossil remains,) I would want to consult a serious paleo-biologist before I would speculate elevating to the level of the chimpoanzee. Do you possibly have a reputable source that can speculate this with impunity? I'd appreciate your sharing it.

As to the 5 million years "from there" in the "present timeline", I'd have to say you are off by about 55 or 60 million years.

The Chimpanzee is not radically older in evolutionary time than is man. The Great Apes are not our ancestors, just a separate branch of evolution that came from the same source as we did about 3-5 million years ago.

(Or maybe I misunderstood you and that IS what you meant?)

But the Velociraptors still went extinct 60-65 million years ago. In "this" (ahem) Timeline.

 
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i am wondering with the recent discovery of making a laser go many times faster than the speed of light and with the recent experiment with slowing light to a stop if they can actually prove some of these paradoxes now. not so as to sending someone back in time, but in a lab setting.

 
TimeTravel_0,

Hello - and hello to Pamela and Javier.

We do get around. As John Titor on another site, I ask you if your name was an anagram for "I John Trot", aka Clown, Clodpole, Clodpate. I accidentally arrived at this site tonight and found Trott conversing with you on the thread.

Have I nailed the anagram or is this a very strange considence?

- for those unfamiliar with my dialogue with John Titor/TimeTravel_0 please note that I find John to be humorous as well as interesting. I enjoy the threads on which he posts.

 
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