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The Death of John Titor.

Are these guys really fakes!. Can anybody do an ip trace to find out if these guys are fake?. Oh yeah anybody read that post that is supposed to be from a colonel in 2040?. The people known a Jhon titor(timtravelr_0) and timtraver_1 are getting arreseted! in their timeperiod.
 
John claims of Civil Unrest and indeed a Civil War in the US in 2004/2005. (He actually contradicts himself a few times, saying 2005 instead of 2004 and vice versa).
The civil war in the United States will start in 2004. I would describe it as having a Waco type event every month that steadily gets worse.
and again:
This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election.

Now, we haven't seen any Waco type events so far. Nor any Civil Unrest leading up to this coming election.
 
I seriously hope no one is buying into all of this. People constantly create hoaxes on the internet, and this is no different from going to a website with the name Ben Affleck and impersonating him. There are various contradictions in this story, and I find it interesting that this alleged time traveler would give a care about notifying people on an internet forum. What is the purpose exactly? If he doesn't really tell anyone about what's going to happen, then why was he here? Oh yeah, the "civil war". Let's think about that one for a moment with the other failed logic used. If 911 didn't happen on his timeline, then how does he know that this civil war will happen on our timeline? I'm assuming he's claiming to have found some sort of wormhole rather than time travel. A parallel universe. So if this civil war is happening there...then would that mean we wouldn't experience this civil war? So again...what's the point of this person's appearance on internet websites? Think about it...if you were some big shot from the future....would you spend your time posting on a forum that a handful of people would see? For what purpose? There seems to be an explanation for everything asked him...convieniently. I think I could come up with a more elaborate explanation than the ones he's giving. It just so happens that a friend of his is told to tell us everything....on his freaking death bed! It sounds like he got bored and wanted to be someone else. And then he became some colonel or something? If anything, this person has an identity crisis. Read all of the explanations and tell me if you think his answers are plausible. It's like he's making it up on the spot to cover for his imaginative lies. It's nice to think that time travel is possible, but you can't throw away your brain in the process. This is a hoax and nothing more.
 
Hi TimeTravel_1,

I have just recently become familiar with John Titor's time travel claims. I can't say that I either believe or disbelieve them. I am keeping an open mind though. I do have one question -- you said that 9/11 never happen on your (John's) worldline. Wouldn't that also mean that things that happended on his worldline (like the civil war and WWIII) may not happen on ours? 9/11 was an incredibly significant event on this worldline and if it didn't happen on yours, I have to wonder how similar our worldlines are.
 
TT1
What was the cause of his death? He was to young to die from old age. Unless time travel affects your chronological time clock and you age faster every time your travel?

Manfromthepast.
 
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Allow me to give you the sum of my investigations.Don't expect links thats what search engines are form.On 2-9-01 john went on a tanget demanding to be understood that he could not give us direct future info.However to illustriat his point he droped a hint talking about planes crashing.Interesting if you consider the numerology of 2-9-01.On 2-27-01(i think) he asked us if we belived iraq had nukes or if we thought it was hype to whip us into a war frenzy.Some time in dec.2000 he makes references to weapons of mass destruction A word not in our common vocabulary at that time.B4 wmd we called the stuff NBC or Nuclear , Biological, Chemical...Bush made the term WMD popular but only after 9-11.A search at scientific american.com will reveal how scientists are already SUCCESSFULLY experimenting with sending particals through time.And the CERN institute Has created micro black holes that are to small to suck in the earth but still strong enough to capture light. It was easy stuff to search to scientificly prove his claims.Just goto any reputable science organization.....I hate the future he described...I dislike those that wish for it.I would rather live in this messed up world then a world where water is a commadity and child birth a rareity...Who bothers to contemplate thier desires when the desire Johns world....Still suck as It must I have always resented my parents tolerateing kent state...Thier should of been open rebelion sooner instead our parents did nothing and have left us the mess to clean up. The civil war doesn't bother me its the nukes that bother me.
 
The time travel machine was a big affair, they had it below ground level.

You can't say that him traveling from his time to our is efficacious, or a good event.

MFTP is a close to the vest card player and does not reveal all there is of Atlantia.
 
I agree with Misha.

9/11 was an incredibly significant event and regardless if JT is true or not you cant do much about anything if your discussing possible future events which doesnt include this particular event.

Only thing i see left is just a normal discussion or if possibly some helpful information like better health or technology that could benifit us.

I guess if its like this then ide ask these questions:

1) Is there any diseases or sickness cures been discovered and if yes would you happen to know what they are?
New medicines for aids, cancer, any known ingredients or something we should look for?

2) Can you tell me any new methods, concepts or anything that has improved our technologies?
Like computers, microchips, energy sources, communications, transportations, medical related ect ect?.

If things like aids, iraq wars, pres bush, 9/11 ect ect didnt happend in your timeline then your info to me doesnt matter or isnt very helpful at all unless it is.

Again if 9/11 didnt happen in your timeline then your really out of your or my league.

Only thing now as ive briefly read, if there is now a possiblility to safely time travel to this same timeline then by all means share with me some events.

For ex:
1) Mention some very significant events that will help us belive your words.
Like:
Who will be next president?
Have they found what is under the sphinx at giza?
Any major natural events like earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, ect ect.
Anything you see in my 9/11 timeline that i should prepare for?

If your a so called a time travler and can travel to this 9/11 timeline then please dont leave me in the dark because life is to short to be in need of help and find useless information that is no help at all.
 
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I still believe John's story was true, due to the research I did back in 2005...and I continue to follow current events. There are explanations for the differences in our Timelines, but too many to post here.

I don't believe the explanation posted here, that students made up the story, because there is too much evidence to support John's claims.

In addition, there was what I call "the experiment"...Where John took back messages that people wanted to email to themselves. Their stories are incredible, but hard to find.

I spent several months researching John's claims, and the evidence convince me he was a real Time Traveler. I watch as the events in our world unfold. Now we are headed for a war in Iran, which is also based on lies, solely for the purpose of the rich obtaining more oil, money and power.

Those who are in power control the Media and they are brainwashing people into believing that Hillary will be the next president, so people give up and vote for her. She is supported by GWB, because she will continue the war, as stated by her.

If/when the U.S. invades/attacks Iran, that will be the doorway to WWIII. Russia and Iran have had a long-standing treaty and Russia will come to Iran's aid if we wage war on that country.

If that happens, then the U.S. will bring a war on our soil, and it will be nuclear. That is for sure and experts have said this. I had precognitive dreams about many things that John said, long before I heard of him. That's what attracted my attention when I read his story.

I wish that I had been on the message boards when John was here...but a family emergency called me away for months. Ironically, he posted on the boards that I frequented, as I was an avid poster on Art Bell's BBS.

If John ever does come back online during our Time Line, I hope to be there.
 
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EAG,

If John ever does come back online during our Time Line, I hope to be there.
Click to expand...

Hate to break it to you this way but if you're right about the Titor Saga then the chances are that you have less than a 50-50 chance of being alive in 3 years.

And because you are, in his story, one of the hated people of this generation, people who don't appear in the 2036 part of his story, then you have a very slim chance of surviving the post nuclear war purge by Titor's Brave New World.

They're either going to toast you or stone you...but they won't be asking too many questions before they decide which. They'd expect both the innocent and the guilty to claim, "But I'm a believer..."

Yuh just gotta love those revolutionaries.

Too kewl, eh?
 
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Didn't Mark Twain say something about the rumors of his death being premature? It may be that Titor will outlive us all. /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
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To: Darby

Thanks, but you're not 'breaking' anything to me. I spent months researching John's material, so I am aware that he said he would not be able to return to this Timeline...Unless of course, his world improves on their ability to Time Travel (my words, not his). That is always a possibility.

I doubt the odds of me being here in 3 years are only 50-50. Perhaps after a nuclear war though, but on his Timeline, that doesn't happen until 2015. Of course, it could happen earlier or later on our Timeline, due to the unexpected alterations in events.

Yes John's generation hated ours, but they had reason to. It's because most people - sheeple, sat idly by and allowed the president to strip our Rights away and wage war over lies...which ultimately led to a nuclear war, which killed billions and destroyed the environment. What society wouldn't be mad about that?

I for one am not one of the sheeple...so I am not one of those people that his generation despise, because I do all that I can to bring knowledge and awareness to others about what's going on, and I do everything I can to help change it and bring peace.

It doesn't matter to me whether or not someone believes in John's story. I do, because of the research I did.

None of that really matters anyway. All that matters is that we pay attention to what's happening in our country now, and try to repair the damage done by this horrid deceiptful Administration.

But for those who don't care about what's happening in America, perhaps hearing John's story will frighten them into doing something to prevent the upcoming disaster of WW III...(because events are unfolding as John foretold).

At this point in time, with current events unfolding as they have and are, we don't need to hear from a Time Traveler to know that we're headed for WW III, IF we are paying attention...But then, most American's aren't.

And about anything in question: Time will tell.
 
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I wouldn't want to live in a society where we all sat around hating people we never met.
 
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Please do not assume too much over what the Government is doing or not doing, or who is at fault. It has been always a combination of things, and mainly what may be missed is what actually foreign Countries are doing. China is Aggressive and trying to Expand over the world, it is now showing. If the money changes in the USA because people think this Government is doing something, it probably is because China has done something like hoard our money and this Government intends to make it worthless doing something else. It is responding because of what some other foreign Countries are doing. If Iran only wants power, there are other ways of obtaining electrical power, and it does not have to be nuclear, where it could lead (and it is going to be an assumption) to wanting n-weapons in the future. This push and pull is precisely because of what some other foreign Governments in the world are doing. Do not assume too much about some things.

First, what seems like a Civil War is merely only bringing criminals to justice and all that one would see on like a TV show like Cops, of which I do not watch, and even some police will not watch.
It has nothing to do with assuming what a type of Civil War may be. It may end up that way in the future, because it just did, and all of it was because the world in the end, did not want to have a better future, because they could not adjust in foreign Countries to the way that they were really thinking. China now wants more, and they are making too many mistakes. I prefer my toothpaste to be somewhere else made along with other things going on. Like fires in California and the winds and everything else going on, somewhere along the way, people have to really start thinking. Some people lead theirselves to false conclusions, and untruths because like writing a computer program, they only thought that they were thinking, when later it was found out, that the student or the programmer had to change the way that they were thinking in the first place, which led to more work having to be done, to finally end up with a computer program that worked as it was supposed to be intented. Sometimes that leads to someone being fired on a job because they can not perform the intended work, sometimes it does not.

In other words, you can read the JT Story many times, and come up with something different each time you read it, because of life going on into the future and more things you may have found out, and also because like writing a computer program, you actually were changing your thinking along the way.

What other reason would people get home loans because they have no job and no way of paying for some real estate but were instead living in a dream? It would be nice if the other people denied them the loan in the first place, and all would be fine like some Cinderella Story, but sometimes that is just not going to happen. Too many assumptions and too many false conclusions can make this World just end up being like JT's future. It did not have to happen, and steps could be taken to avoid that kind of future, but again because of too many assumptions and too many dreams taking place, the result ended up less than it had to for the future.

Yes, it can be debated and even scorned at with some of the Acts going on, in the '60's people did end up being shot for it. It really never ended, the agenda was changed to avoid any more of it, I guess some people assumed that it was just history, when the same thing is actually been going on for more than about 40 years, and again with other things like Outer Space Weapons and other things brought up into the limelight again. Again it seems it has to be explained because there are younger people here on the Planet, but Alex Jones and some of those people really are only here to make money for him/her self and that is about all. It is still the kind of same thing -- gabbage into the head -- gabbage out of the head.

It may not be quite the same with details but still it still is kind of the same attitude. The data was false to begin with from other people, and this kind of Adversity should have ended, but again, none of it really ever ended. The Government may only be responding to what other people are stating and the rest may be some National Security that not all people even Elected are going to know about. It is about the Big Picture, which unfortunately, not all that many people are going to know about -- even the rich ones - but perhaps only God, and that is where religion should be religion and the false assumptions be laid to rest about any of the rest of it.

Yes, I am older, and yes, like Darby and others, have been through this all before.
One could think that with that way that China was before and N. Korea they should have been ended a long, time ago, back in the perhaps early '70's along with some others. Whatever it is, it has been around before, the trick, the trick is trying to avoid it all again. Before it may not have seemed as serious, but again, it probably was - like in the Past.

It is a day to day thing on whether to end it all or not. This was brought up in a sense by the end of the original thread. (even though some postings were rambling on about seemingly crazy senseless stuff).
 
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I also suspect some other things seemingly going around to, since I had this what I deem a cold virus type sinus thing that attacks weak points in your body system before like 3-4 years ago. Whereas other people may dismiss this thing, and I think I am not imagining this or it is only my body system, it is a virus that attacks weak parts of yourself. I know I have had this before, that it will go away, but in the process it is like sinus headache cold, but it also is kind of a relentess bug that affects other parts of your system. I just went through this a little again, and the first time it affected me more than now, because I do not always seek a doctor to take anti-biotics, because I read in the end, they actually make your immune system weaker than better. Those if not really needed are only a temporary fix and you need to wait to allow your body to make it own immune system better but it takes slightly longer. Younger people may not notice it as much as I may, because I am older so I notice this stuff and I am not sluffing it off. It may be only my system, but then again I never think I had anything similiar to this before the first attack a few years back now and definitely not before. It raises blood pressure for awhile while it is like a sinus cold headache virus but it also is doing other things and like attacking weak points in your system. Relieving the symptoms will not get rid of this virus or other superbug viruses coming perhaps partly back from Iraq. I read about this recently a few months ago in Wired.com online magazine article a few months back, about it landing in Florida to where the patient was transferred back from Iraq. The teenager that just died due to another superbug which not the same is partly the same thing. The Doctors have stated that they will not have anything to help because of the viruses mutating. And although my imagination may be working here, I wonder if it has anything to do unfortunately to uranium depleted shells perhaps to the extent of speeding up viruses to mutate more quickly than before, or if it is just something that just happened because of being from a different part of the world. We may be vaccinated here in this Country, but there are still things out there like this in the rest of the world, no one has had to deal with ever before in this Country. It won't be fixed though, according to the Doctors, it seems, any time soon.
This does not make me feel any better though, because I know I had this same type of thing a few years back, and if these type of viruses are coming around every few years or so, then this is something that will not help people out as they get older and notice it more. Again it may just be my system, but I just do not think so.

It is not that it is a cold type virus, it is that it is a worse type of cold virus than what is typically thought of as being a cold. It has not many cold smyptoms but it makes one a little more tired and with sinus attacks that affect your head and such, I think it is something else that may have to be considered in this Country. I hope it is just not me, because I think it would be more consistent than happening at about the same time of year when the cold and flu season starts on its way.
 

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