Chronovisor Posts


January 3, 2001 9:30 am
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can you tell again the link of that papers, which are you talking about, i wanna se it


January 3, 2001 4:52 am
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when you have a seamless story that you came from 2036 in a General Electric Time machine and brought documents from the year 2036,then ill buy your bridge.

TT_0 could have said bloody NASA made the time machine,why did he choose General Electric?possibly because his story is true..?
and the documents are scanned,and look unedited.they also look photocopied.




January 3, 2001 3:31 am
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hmmm, I don’t remember ever posting that I beleived the wave rider was true.

As for timetraveler_0 , I have not posted everything we have discussed.
I have not been able to find a flaw in any of his discussions so far.
he has really opened my understanding of time travel.Things I would have never thought of before.
I will have to say, In some of his thinking he is “ahead of this time.” :smile.gif:


[This message has been edited by pamela (edited 03 January 2001).]


January 2, 2001 6:57 pm
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You mean the photos of the paper that say 2036?? I could make those papers. I made birth certifcate and immigration papers that look more real then those papers. If u believe that those photos then I have a bridge to sell u in Brooklyn want to buy it is really cheap!!!!!


January 2, 2001 6:30 pm
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TT_0 provided us with scanned government documents showing the components to a 2036 General Electric Time Machine..check out the other pages on this thread,and you’ll find the url to them…



January 2, 2001 4:52 pm
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I’m sorry but I don’t believe the Time Traveler is from the year 2036. Pamela u seem like a smart woman how can you believe that he is a time traveler where there is nothing that he says could prove that he is. You even beleived the guy who called the Art Bell show and it’s pretty sure that HE is a fake. The only thing that makes me think that Time Travel is possible was a incident that happened to me in 1995. It was a Saturday and I was living in Manhattan. I had to get up early to move the car from the meter.Standing in the corner of my block looking like he was waiting for the bus was a man that looked exactly like me.It really scared me. I saw him and he saw me. I just took off running (which I regret). Was that me from the future?? Or was that someone that just looked like me? I don’t know and I don’t think I ever will know


January 2, 2001 2:33 pm
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Hi Roel Van Houten,
Is it still raining over there?

You forgot the weather report at the end! :smile.gif:

I think time travel already exists.
One thing you have to remember that it doesnt really matter WHEN it was ever created but IF. because with a time machine you can travel to ANY time.
TTO has made me realize alot of different possibilities in time travel.Things I never thought of before I am now thinking on.
New ideas have sprung up. new pieces of the puzzle possibly found.

about the priests and monks…I think that would involve more the will, spirit, and amplified thoughts than just the brain alone.

Does anyone have any thoughts on the “Z” machine?

pamela :smile.gif:

[This message has been edited by pamela (edited 02 January 2001).]

Roel van Houten

January 2, 2001 1:32 pm
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Hi everyone,

With all due respect, but the story about the “Waverider” sounds pretty ridiculous compared to the story that TimeTravel_0 provided us with.

I don’t think timetravel will exist for a couple of decades to come, maybe even centuries. But I strongly believe that timetravel will not be possible without the aid of a machine of somekind.

Nowadays people are said to be using 30% of their brainpower and although people have accomplished many great things, I don’t believe the remaining 70% is enough to travel through time. There are myths about monks and priests who were able to levitate by focussing their thoughts, but that’s nothing compared to timetravel.


Roel van Houten


January 2, 2001 9:57 am
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Mr. O,
You said that there were 7 other time travellers that you knew of who were on various missions from 2036 on your timeline. I am curious have people in 2036 been visited by people from further in the future? One would think that once time travel was possible and widely known that visitors from other time frames would be more likely to be visible and willing to be upfront about their visitation to the period after time travel, A.T.T (after time travel).


January 2, 2001 9:46 am
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Timetravel Activist,
If you believe in the multi-universe interpretation of quantum mechanics than everything with a non-zero possibility plays out. Therefore, I do not see how one could say that your future or history is being changed since one possibility, if time travel is possible, is for your future to be changed. Of course in an alternate universe, you would still be whatever it is that you thing has been changed about you.
If time travel ever becomes more than just theory, it would mark the greatest scientific moment in all history. Surely, you must agree with that.


January 2, 2001 1:14 am
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every page in every book has 2 sides..
2 sides which are to be viewed and judged..
time travel is just another page in just another book…

Fast Out


January 1, 2001 11:53 pm
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I see your brand new here, so I can understand if you don’t know the history of what I’ve said in past posts. Let me just say that yes Time Travel will be this worlds greatest technological breakthrough, when it becomes real (to this timeline that is).

However, unlike you who wishes to see this issue of Time Travel as a scientist in an objective manner.

I choose to see this issue on a human/moral level. Is it ethical to Time Travel? Is it right to change the past with the knowledge one knows now in the future?

You’ve all seen “Back to the Future 2” where Marty is in the future, and he attempts to take back with him an almanac to place sports bets in the past.

Well, you can see where the moral implication can put us in, if our curiosity to go back and do things in this manner will do to our society? If one person does it, others will want to too.

If others are getting genetically engineered, others will want to too. To keep up at least, since now the rich who can afford it, are this super eugenic species (with intelligence and looks). Will we say then “Survival of the Fittest?”

Where does that leave out normal hard working honest people? Apparently that no longer exists.

Therefore, as you can see, my only beef with Time Travel is that it can be abused. Sure it can benefit us, but I am an Activist trying to get the word out that it’s not just glamorous and wonderful as it may sound, and that we should all jump in the band-wagon with it.

Someone needs to look out for humanities best interest in preserving our way of life, and I’m willing to take on that responsibility. Who can say the same?



January 1, 2001 11:27 pm
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it is no longer HIS website…at least i think so.
the last time i checked in was when his page was redirected to
i think i first got intrested into gibb’s work after hearing him on the Art Bell show..

but i remember an interview or something where a friend of his or a sheriff said that the wave rider was a nice story,but it wasnt real.i think thats right.

Fast Out


January 1, 2001 8:24 pm
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thankyou for providing the links to Ong’s hat they are very interesting.I will be looking at it more indepth.

Time 02112,
boy, the “z” machine story got around pretty quick!

If Art Bell has admitted to the time traveler being fake why are the stories still posted on his site? Knowing Art Bells
character I think he would have written a follow up letter on it or pulled all the faxes from the site.
It still does not mean the faxes are legitimate however.
one thing I have been noticing though is some of the predictions were not acurate. A time traveler from another worldline can really only testify to what he has seen on his worldline. but now I am beginning to wonder….how many timetravelers are out there? how many are on this worldline at any given time? how many times can you alter events before something happens?
a lot of what waverider spoke on in his final faxes sounds a lot like timetraveler_0’s testimony. I know TTO is going to be really interested in reading waveriders faxes. perhaps he may be able to relate to some of the language written.



January 1, 2001 5:38 pm
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I see that I have returned just in time. The concept of Time Travel has overwhelmed some with the idea of accepting it, and going along with it. Have you all forgotten that Time Travel is a means of controlling who we are. For a future collective agenda.

My site is updated, check it out.




January 1, 2001 3:59 pm
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i think that when Art Bell retired(unknown reason..) he said that the Wave Rider was not real,it was just some guy messing around.he told that to the sheriff in his town,or something similar..
i could be mistaken..

Fast Out


January 1, 2001 3:25 pm
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What could you surmise, as to what might happen, as a result if you provided us with copies of various news articles in relation to “Technology Reports” published a year in our future, or any “Time” after (Such as in your “Worldline” as you so describe?

*Could You?
*Would You?

And please explain your reasons for why you would, or would not do something like this for us?


January 1, 2001 2:36 pm
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I appreciate your comments here, and I thought I would provide you with an example of just how appreciated you are.
(You’re sincerely welcome my Friend!…any”Time”

Below is a copy of a recent email from p3n:>
From: “Webmaster”
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 17:34:13 -0800
Subject: Re: The “Z” Machine

Hi Gary,

I posted a link to the “Z” machine story yesterday, the second I saw it.

Thanks for sending the “Proclaimed” Time Traveler story. It was one of the
best things that has come into P3N and with the help of links from other
websites it has been one of the most visited pages. It was also very thought
provoking. Please feel free to submit more writings or links to good stories
when you find them.

Thanks again,
Rick Reed
Webmaster P3N

Pamela, I am very familiar with this “Waverider” I listened to his info. on the former “Art Bell Show” known today, as the current “Coast To Coast AM” program.
since “Premier Radio Networks” purchased Art Bell’s Legacy for a sumisable amount.
you can listen to pre-recorded programs, up to 30 days, in the “Past Shows” selection, on their website. Anything beyond 30 days, you will need to purchase a tape.

I believe that this “Waverider” information & faxes, are still available in text & jpg formats on the coast to coast website.

[This message has been edited by Time02112 (edited 01 January 2001).]


January 1, 2001 2:31 pm
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Pamela, what the Waverider is describing sounds a lot like the technique used by the Incunabula/Ong’s hat group. They supposedly had developed inter-dimentional travel. check out tis site:
A lot of the info on the site seems to be disinfo, but then there are pieces of the truth mixed in. Here is another site with another point of view:
Dimentional displacement requires less power and technology then temporal displacement.


January 1, 2001 12:34 pm
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Well it’s a good thing I got injured in the Army, or else that might have been my fate as well.


P.S. I’m home… =)