A prediction of US anarchy from a self-described time traveler

[ErisC]

The US will be one of the first nations to go into an anarchy… in less than 20 years. (i would say half this number… though i don’t know which would seem more farfetched in your responses.)

I come from this time. (just so you don’t jump the gun on here saying “when were you before this moment?”)

I have met my future self. At a younger age; which is why seeing Steins;gate was pretty much my introduction to John Titor. Which during the full series i didn’t realize that just 11 years prior he posted here. And then i dove into the story.

This claim is not of me being John Titor… however i have shortly mentioned this to @QuantumSoundwave through messages; i won’t disclose this through on the irony…

Now as you may or not know by now; i am not claiming to be John Titor… my typing patterns are very inconsistant comparatively… unless the fact of John being transgender… which i personally find absurd… (Now here is what my question to you @TimeTravelerZero was about via the 10 and 13…)

I first watched Steins;Gate in 2012. Which was due to it being the second most popular series on anime planet and also was something akin to "the visual novel science trilogy with a semi-colon in the middle of two words… (Chaos;head (a delusional shut-in who saves the world with his delusions.) Steins;Gate (a mad scientist who is studying a return of a John Titor in 2010, and Robotics;Notes (a kid which a heart issue whom uses an alternate reality phone app; and a robotics enthuesiest and ends up building the first Mecha.)) I didn’t see Robotics;Notes until like 2018. For a while it was difficult to find… now it is everywhere.

Two of the anime were added… Chaos;Child… which brings light to what really happened in Chaos;Head and a new generation is exposed to another means of reality.

While Steins;gate shifted to AI. (where the time travel aspects kinda left it’s plot.)

This is all important to the first sentence i posted…

The US will be one of the first nations to go into an anarchy… in less than 20 years. (i would say half this number… though i don’t know which would seem more farfetched in your responses.)

Steins;Gate has a bit of an allure to me as the fact that there was a Japanese Company that talked about making a game out of the John Titor Posts; and it dawned on me…

In the original Posts; or the Art Bell interview with the lawyer and Kay. They mentioned John was born in 1998. The Game of Steins;Gate was released in 2009 and the anime aired in 2011. (11 and 13 years.)

I was first online in 1998… AND google started around the same time as i first came on. Now what really tripped me out was @TimeTravelerZero says he was born in 1985… which is 13 years earlier.

In the original posts; there was a few really significant things i noticed with the timelines…

1. The US would go into a civil war in 2004… add 10 years to that (2014) and we have the progressive left providing more freedoms and values; (gay marraige, various inclusive things going on… wokism.) at this time gamer;gate was starting to take shape and Trump was starting to offer making america great again. What happened after this? an actual civil war. (Trump’s first year in office was 13 years after 2004 in 2017)
2. Then we were provided the date for World War Three; 2015. Which if we add 10 years… This becomes 2025… Trumps second year… in the original posts; the president would be the last president of the United States. 2028… is 13 years after 2015.
3. Given the nature of World War 3; (i’ll go with the @Darby description…) Boomer Titor mentioned North Korea taking action to start it… Now we have three significant wars two old ones like Israel and Palestine and Iran and US; and a newer one (growing close to 4 years) with Russia and Ukraine. So if my theory is correct here; North Korea may do something in 2028… maybe against let’s say… India? maybe.
4. There are other wars that are not talked about in the Media that are not in the minds of most Americans or European countries. These are likely not the big players.
5. Both World Wars consisted of only a handful of powerful nations. So really the nations just need to take sides with one another… and boom; World War 3.

While this occurs; we all know Trump is 80 years old… and well; he’s not the healthiest of individuals. I am certain that once he dies. The “civil” war we have now… is gonna get really violent. Each side is gonna pit blame on the other… while this happens… other nations are gonna take notice and this will invoke alliances to the five divided nation-states of america. (New England, Central, Pacific Coast, Non-Mainland States, and Southern.)

The two alliances would be grouped with New England and Pacific Coast for one group; and the other would be Central and Southern. Which demographically; we can agree on who’s who.

The other countries would side with the alliance whom they think would win or be the most profitable. (depending solely on that country.) and the Island states would end up becoming independent… Alaska would become trade partners with Central but also be independent.

At this point; many of the countries would make alliances would fund resources instead of joining in the fight. Though the already warring nations would still be more concerned with their own battles.

World War 3 would last for about a decade.

Once it ends; then America would have five different nations; which were covered earlier. Which then would cause an Anarchy in all five of them; as they become decentralized and independent of the government. (each for their own reasons that i won’t discuss here… sociologically we could naturally figure out how this would end up.)

UwU

There are several forms of anarchy; and they all point to various means of anarchist paradigms.

I ask that you carefully study this… let me know if i overlooked something; or if there are any logic holes in my prediction. (i can think of one… which will likely be an obvious one; it’s the same way as Boomer John declaring these things but not giving exact people’s names. “not to alter things.”)

Here is a prediction i made in 2012.

Which you can explore here: Capeditiea Book 1 : CynChaote : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Mind you this book was nearly finished when i finally watched Steins;Gate… i already had time travel influences… due to seeing my future self in 1999; on precisely the 30th anniversary of the first man on the moon.

The uncle at the time worked at an IBM facility in Minnesota. (which my aunt divorced him in 2001.)

So… this kinda added to a lot of the mystery. The crazy part of this all is… a music video of the song version of Time is of the Essense… (refer to the screenshot to try and follow along with the words.)

everything in the video happened after the Time is of an Essence.

[Darby]

@ErisC

The US will be one of the first nations to go into an anarchy

Define anarchy so we are all on the same page. Is it a series of anarcho-syndicalist communes or something else?

[Apocalypse]

@ErisC

due to seeing my future self in 1999; on precisely the 30th anniversary of the first man on the moon.

Meeting an alternate or time traveling version of yourself is extremely interesting. I recall watching the original moon landing in 1969 when I was a kid.

[ErisC]

@Darby

Define anarchy so we are all on the same page. Is it a series of anarcho-syndicalist communes or something else?

it would be more An-Cap (anarcho-capitalist) in different varieties for Southern and New England.

Pacific Coast would be more of An-Com, while Alaska and Central would be more Social-Capitalist.

(not to mention the various tribal sub-communities which would likely be similar to how local political values are currently; and only theoretical as this could end up being slightly different in other people’s minds… there are several variations to which would be which… like Pacific and New England could easily both be An-Cap; though we seen how Portland reacted to George Floyd Protests; which was more of an An-Com response…) so i could be very wrong in how the communities would function. (or i could simply be withholding information to not influence the outcome.)

@Apocalypse

Meeting an alternate or time traveling version of yourself is extremely interesting. I recall watching the original moon landing in 1969 when I was a kid.

The crazy part is; the future me looks exactly like a slightly older version of the current me… i need to ask my dad for the home videos again… as i have to study the video my uncle took… to see if future me was caught on camera. (there was a point where i was standing in front of a fountain and my aunt and uncle were discussing what we were gonna do next. Just off camera my past self (the 13 year and 37 day old me…) looks off camera; which i have several memories of that trip to D.C. and the one where i seen this girl; wave to come over to her… but i knew “stranger danger” and didn’t go over there… it didn’t occur to me until i revisited the video (which i had on hand for a while until i had accidentally deleted all the videos on my stick drive…) in 2021; shortly after an old friend of mine commited suicide. (we didn’t talk for 3 years.)

The main memory was that they had an observatorium and it played; i think it was either Meatloaf or Boston… could be wrong… as a voiceover would speak on the history of the moonlanding. I also remember i had a mild headache after the fountain. (like i had the first one on my 11th birthday (1997) for a full weekend… and predicted my friendship through a fever dream… about Batman villians chasing me into a house, up the stairs into the very room that i later found out was the friend’s room the day after we went to a classmate’s graduation party in 2004.)

Got side tracked…

Though that isn’t the only time that i had seen future me… i don’t remember the exact date… nor place… it was after the 1999 incedent; but before i was put into an alternative school. The school was a small group of 30-40 students K-12 (all grades.)

But it was during school time… (there may have been a police statement.) Someone i thought was a teacher from the high school was sitting in the park near the school… and i went into the bathroom… the person enclosed me in the bathroom… and told me… that i will do great things… absurd things… that i wouldn’t be living a happy life and we talked for a few hours discussing things that wouldn’t have even came into my mind. It planted the seeds of wanting to study time travel… and for the next decade i had tried to figure out why this random person told me… “you figured out how to time travel…”

i don’t know if it was me fully… however; i did ask…

Though i did see them return to their own time… (i will use they them pronouns because it was likely me; but in a very different context of who i am…) basically; it was just poof; then bluish smoke. (almost a neon blue.)

I left the bathroom and ended up walking up the street to home; in the early evening… i got scolded by my dad for being out late… and ended up getting grounded for two weeks.

I came up with a more believable story of the person being two dudes holding me up in the bathroom and blowing blue smoke… (the blue smoke part kinda slipped.) threatening me that if i tell anyone this; i would be cut up…

I mean which is more believeable to you? XD

those are the only two times i know for sure… there is a third that i am not 100% on though what ever it was; it was gone before i was able to run down the hall crying for my mom to come and look in the closet only for there to be nothing where it was… nothing… no clothes, nothing that could have been mistaken… and my two brothers were out with my mom… (i think i was around 5-8 as that was around the time all three of us slept in that specific room.) I don’t know what it was; but it looked like this…

Here is the kicker… the artist who painted that is named… Kay Sage. Aside from her name; it just really obscurely connects things… she commited suicide in 1963. 3 years and 5 days after my mom was born… I learned about Kay Sage in 2021… (when i was 35.)

I believe numbers have a lot of value in how things are linked… not in a numerogical sense but a gematrial sense…

do i believe i will have figured out how to time travel? that is 50/50. However when i learned of Titor being someone in this existence… and so many similarities… especially with @TimeTravelerZero 's contradictory exclaimations on the originals being all fabricated… it may have something really deep that none of us have yet realized…

I know we can figure it out with in the next 10 years; if not; then i wouldn’t have been so allured to theorizing how to time travel.

I cannot say that i know for a fact how it is done. I just know it can be done a lot easier than most people (or AI) would figure… people are not realizing those missing scientists are likely being taken to try and develop a time machine… and there was that anomoly at CERN of something or someone coming through… (which was actually the reason i started looking for the forum posts in the first place…)

(this should be enough text for most to realize i am not anyone’s sock account as well… LOL.)

to get back on the topic of the incoming anarchy; as i didn’t provide the full answer above got excited to type out the one from @Apocalypse ; While US may be first; there will be others under similar governmental status as the US has now. Mainly due to reactionary forces. the five factions will politically schism very similar to how Shia and Sunni Muslims schismed. Though they will start as two then divide into area based structures where each would have their own lifestyles.

(ideally as this wouldn’t happen… in most contexts… the five nation-states would end up having a decent safety asylum… where people can move from one to the other…)

The closest way i can think of is similar to how the sections for The Hunger Games insists… just less groups and no Hunger Games…

[JudasTitor]

The US is $40 trillion in debt. The only way this issue can be adressed would be to force Congress to outlaw all federal, state, and local government debt, balance its budget by increasing taxes while reducing spending; then to begin printing $1 trillion per month and liquidating existing federal debts over the next 40 months. This will destroy the purchasing power of existing dollars and drive hyper inflation; and I will do it tomorrow if the opportunity arises. There is no future for the next generation on the current path, but this painful alternative could leave something debt free for our children.

[ErisC]

@JudasTitor

The US is $40 trillion in debt. The only way this issue can be adressed would be to force Congress to outlaw all federal, state, and local government debt, balance its budget by increasing taxes while reducing spending; then to begin printing $1 trillion per month and liquidating existing federal debts over the next 40 months.

most of our debt comes from war machines and technologies. So we could simply stop funding (or participating in) wars for other countries. Most countries can be diplomatically influenced… only a few would require more violent means to simply subdue a more forceful leader. Mainly most Middle Eastern countries have had a really grim past with the US and Russia… and September 11 was simply due to misrepresentation of a certain dude seeing an American Flag on a tank; while it was really Russia whom did the damage. So then it took them from 1979 till 2001… 22 years to respond. So there is a generational hatred of America in several Middle Eastern countries. This just means the people in Iran have the Strait of Hormuz and various other trade routes that really will wreak havok on america… making prices for travel that much more horrifying for the Average and even the above average americans…

Once the back up oil supply runs dry; then we’re gonna start hearing youtubers start complaining they barely can make ends meet. It will be a rampant chaos and desparate people do desparate (and often illegal things)… which you covered pretty well… in a lot fewer words…

@JudasTitor

This will destroy the purchasing power of existing dollars and drive hyper inflation; and I will do it tomorrow if the opportunity arises.

Which is partially what led me to this post. While the ones who are currently feeling they are making enough to live; we are fed incentives of various government agencies with large sign on bonuses… you would think that they have already done their jobs at the numbers they claimed to deport… i mean demographically the stats point to this… who are paying those incentives?

@JudasTitor

There is no future for the next generation on the current path, but this painful alternative could leave something debt free for our children.

Precisely. What is horrifying is; children born any time after 2018… will likely have a rapid increase of cPTSD, Anxiety, Agoraphobia, OCD, and Depression. Not because of the political environment; but how everyone responded and then ended up with a permanent cabin fever post-quarantine… Their parents were fed worrisome things through how the algorithms thrust them into a state of constant panic… and how their young child (who are having imprint vulnerabilities) are effected by their actions; will often cause them to emulate those as they grow older. Similar to how if a mother has a fear of snakes or spiders, there is a high chance that her oldest child would also have similar fears… or at the very least the child whom was exposed to the reaction of the fear before experiencing the fear that isn’t initially a fear… (may have been confusing there…)

mainly; imprint vulnerability is simply the most influencial time of a child’s life. (their first 6 years.) it is mainly on their reaction to things not their belief’s. These are basically how they would respond later in life to things. This is where racism, phobias, and various mannerisms start; and they all are adapted through the parents… which when they are older (age 7 to pre-puberty) they seek it from peers, extended family, classmates, friends, teachers they like.

So during the latter points are usually when they could end up with a life long psychosis. Making them either confident or timid… outgoing or reserved… social or a shut in.

Mainly; we could shift the government spending to more effective places… like teachers or for social programs; like food, clothing, and various other necessities. All the while significantly decreasing the amount we put for war.

Things would be solved before World War 3 would start… really; we would have to make peace with Iran… by simply not bombing them every time they close the strait… we could stop siding with israel… and focus on the fact that both Palestine and Israel were not originally there in the first place… (there were several changes.)

For the Russia Ukrainian war… part of Ukraine was taken… and are defending their selves from being attacked by Russia while the North Atlantic Trade Organization has been trying to have Ukraine join them; when Ukraine wants to be independent…

How are these wars solved? Well; Putin has a well known fact about him; no one drinks anything that is offered to them… due to the lack of trust. While that lack of trust is common for a specific group. It is also a test that he makes because it is common knowledge. He may not poison any drinks… but wants to see if they trust him and his rule. It is really a Schrodinger’s tea. Just knowing this about him is something most leaders would overlook on. (as they are busy with other things… like leading their own country.)

Netanyahu and Fred Trump were friends… when Netanyahu went to High School in Pennsylvania. The other really interesting thing is in that same county; a couple back in 1986 just 15 days before i was born were murdered by a lunatic (literally…) however documents declare the reason was because the dude who did it; was unstable and they just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time… (if i remember correctly their own home.) the couple were also Pro-Palestine…

Most of the latter is how the media portrays that multi-decade feud which leads to a genocide of one… through very similar means that happened around 3-9 years prior to Israel’s creation in 1948.

But yeah… most of us would really benefit with better education.

[JudasTitor]

Solar energy is so cheap that there is little incentive to invest in anything else outside of sodium battery storage and the EV electrification of all transportation. No more wars for oil when the demand drops to 0. No more petrodollar global currency control. You can buy an $8,000 solar powered car in Asia tomorrow that charges itself 40 miles per day. The demand from the grid is 0 if you use it within its solar recharge rate. Horses function on a similar metric.

[ErisC]

Precisely.

Also Nikola came up with a self sustaining engine… Edison was particularly an Adventure Capitalist and banked on dependency based products that produce an income for investors.

Electric cars are being implimented more frequently in the past decade… when we could have had them a little under a century ago… and it would have helped dissipate the air pollution from the industrial age.

The main reasons for war are simply either Resources or Colonialism. (and go back a few millenia and a third were over lovers quarrells. usually of royalty or high classed society… or for Religious purposes which were pretty much the 1000s - 1500s…)

I cannot remember when; there was a war that started over a stolen horse or cow… not sure which…

When i was younger i had sorta thought on how solar panels would work for various means of life… like solar panels to power your car; the things in your home, and how different our walls or even appliances would be if we developed them in this way.

I also thought of crank options; which was spawned while listening to AM radio (i think it was Coast to Coast or a show about werewolves…) which i was reminded of how the Model Ts were started. (which then followed with the mystical idea of it being done with a train.)

I also ponder on how people lived before many of these advancements. Like you really couldn’t loose the keys to your horse drawn carrage… or forget to turn off the stove… the latter would be pretty evident by the time you left the house… as it was often an open flame with a cauldren over it…

the one that stuck with me was word of mouth… and how slow it travelled…

Like historically people can name far more 19th century composers than 19th century politicians…

and the further back you go; the Politicians tend to be more ruthless or war mongering. While the composers… are either well known or their music is known.

most church hymns are from 1600s or earlier. Though the highly recognisable ones are likely Dufay or Hildigarde von Bingon. (from 1200s.) depending on the Christian Denomination. Some of the political figures are only for those who study this… and that is mainly those who study specific countries… or did a report on it in school…

1700s we have Bach, Vivaldi, Albinoni, for a few. While the politicians would be pretty much the same… if you come from america… you would know the first three presidents… where as most other countries would have similar knowledge of their own leaders. where in that same light other countries would probably know of Washington and maybe Jackson. but Adams would not be known…

the 1800s are an increase as it is more recent… and we have one of our first modern politicians to be known internationally… (unless there is one i forgot in the 1700s.)

for composers; Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Wagner, Mahler, a lot of the Strauss family. (they were pretty much the Bach’s of the 1800s… a lot of them and a two of them share the same name.)

The politicians? Napolean and Lincoln… (polar opposites…)

1900s is where a shift occured… we know of popular bands over composers… and politicians (as well as musicians) have more reach… i could list them all off… but that would take a while…

2000s are not really historical yet… but we will remember Trump… and we will likely remember Putin… Same with Saddam and perhaps even Mamdani… (depending on how effective he is in the next few years.)

Time will tell.

I already know i am a historical figure… not many have done what i have done… and unless things become more calm around the world; to where people can live a life to live not to work most of their waking hours; then it will likely not be done by anyone… especially in the duration of time it took me… so eventually 200 or more years from now… i will be in the pool of prolithic names as Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky… etc. or the revision of my five books into one book will be a sci-fi fantasy following in the footsteps of Tolkien but releasing my book as he intended to release The Lord of the Rings. (as one long book.) I want to be unknown while i am alive… i don’t think i could handle the pressure or the fame… so i’ll just become a legend who accidentally made a multiverse of music…

[SPECSPT]

Oh yeah Japan has deep intellectual and occult connections so yeah it sounds about right

also easy to predict something if you orchestrate it

[ErisC]

o my…

@SPECSPT

also easy to predict something if you orchestrate it

do i say… “o no you caught me” or “i don’t know what you’re talking about… i am not orchestrating World War 3”

or do i say… “hmmm”

my imposter syndrome is acting up now…

[SPECSPT]

No I was referring to powers that be

[Darby]

@ErisC

it would be more An-Cap (anarcho-capitalist) in different varieties for Southern and New England.

Pacific Coast would be more of An-Com, while Alaska and Central would be more Social-Capitalist.

(not to mention the various tribal sub-communities which would likely be similar to how local political values are currently; and only theoretical as this could end up being slightly different in other people’s minds… there are several variations to which would be which… like Pacific and New England could easily both be An-Cap; though we seen how Portland reacted to George Floyd Protests; which was more of an An-Com response…) so i could be very wrong in how the communities would function. (or i could simply be withholding information to not influence the outcome.)

So the probability is less than 99%.

[ErisC]

@Darby

So the probability is less than 99%.

you caught me.