# An idea.

**URL:** <https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652>\
**Category:** Mechanics & Theory\
**Tags:** fringe-physics\
**Created:** [June 1, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652 "2007-06-01T18:50:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ruthless](https://timetravelinstitute.com/user_avatar/timetravelinstitute.com/ruthless/32/63_2.png) [@ruthless](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/ruthless)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2007, 6:50pm UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/1 "2007-06-01T18:50:09Z")

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i have a theory, and i was wondering if anyone could prove, or disprove it. i am trying to understand the whole light speed deal.

my idea is that light travels very, very slowly. it is only percieved as fast because it is not bound by the rules of time.

i am probably incorrect, but its ok, as i am just trying to understand.

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**Author:** ![ruthless](https://timetravelinstitute.com/user_avatar/timetravelinstitute.com/ruthless/32/63_2.png) [@ruthless](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/ruthless)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 1:19am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/2 "2007-06-02T01:19:32Z")

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bump

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**Author:** ![Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/D4A830/32.png) [@Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/Joseph_Kakusagan)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 2:20am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/3 "2007-06-02T02:20:45Z")

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_Edited by Mop (06/03/07 11:36 PM)_

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**Author:** ![Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/D4A830/32.png) [@Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/Joseph_Kakusagan)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 2:21am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/4 "2007-06-02T02:21:16Z")

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I bet your a emo too.

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**Author:** ![jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/2AA79B/32.png) [@jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/jmpet)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 6:10am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/5 "2007-06-02T06:10:22Z")

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\>Is this what you do all day with your time? Man you need a life. I hope your wife dies infront of you and your family.\<

This was completely uncalled for and you should apologize immediately for saying this and do like all the other debunked scam time travellers do and simply go away- you crossed the line with that comment.

And for the record, your story IS full of holes. Yeah I know- “time to attack me too”. Well take a month off, come back and reread all your posts and you will agree.

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**Author:** ![Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/D4A830/32.png) [@Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/Joseph_Kakusagan)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 6:55am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/6 "2007-06-02T06:55:11Z")

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Lol what? I was the one who revealed myself…lol ofcourse my story was full of holes just found the blog and started typing random idiocy. lolol

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**Author:** ![Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/D4A830/32.png) [@Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/Joseph_Kakusagan)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 7:01am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/7 "2007-06-02T07:01:02Z")

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Ok, ruthless. I apologize.

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**Author:** ![jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/2AA79B/32.png) [@jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/jmpet)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 7:03am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/8 "2007-06-02T07:03:36Z")

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You can’t point out that your story is full of holes as an obvious fact in light of your story turning out to be nothing but full of holes. That is a sign of immaturity, which only makes you lose even more credibility. If your intention was to goof on us from day one, your first post would have been goofy. But it was not.

From the outset you inferred you were “better than all of us” and when it turned out you were nothing but another simple fraud, you decided to turn ugly and attack everyone instead of walking away.

Well I am here to tell you it’s time for you to walk away.

Now go before it gets even more embarrasing for you. Since you’re so much better than all of us anyway, you should have no problem walking away, right? 😉

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**Author:** ![Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/D4A830/32.png) [@Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/Joseph_Kakusagan)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 7:14am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/9 "2007-06-02T07:14:02Z")

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Didn’t you read the “Proof” post? It was set up that I was going to reveal myself 2-3 days before I even did it. Obviously it was pre-meditated. I made a prediction a polotical leader was going to get hurt on May 31st or June 1st and guess what? A DURRRRRRR IF IT DIDNT HAPPEN OBVIOUSLY I WAS GUNNA BE REVEALED A DURRRRR AND WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF IT HAPPENING? A DDURRRRRPPP A DURRRR ANYONE HOME?

Ruthless just insulted me so I decided I would do it then and slap his face a little bit and make him feel bad about himself. So I think you either need common sense or some schooling little kid. LOLZZZZZZZZZZZ

Oh I know I’m so embarrassed by guys on a time traveling blog insulting me. Why would I be embarassed by ANYTHING on the internet especially you losers? Lol I don’t care what people think about me I’m not a punk like you.

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**Author:** ![jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/2AA79B/32.png) [@jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/jmpet)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 7:23am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/10 "2007-06-02T07:23:03Z")

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\>It was set up that I was going to reveal myself 2-3 days before I even did it.\<

Perhaps you’re missing the point. You can’t point out that “you were only joking” in light of being exposed as a fraud.

\>Lol I don’t care what people think about me I’m not a punk like you.\<

For someone who dosen’t care, you sure seem to be keeping this lively “should you go away” debate going. It’s called LASTWORDITIS- check it out on Wikipedia.

“It’s all over but for the crying” -Someone dead

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**Author:** ![Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/D4A830/32.png) [@Joseph\_Kakusagan](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/Joseph_Kakusagan)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 7:25am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/11 "2007-06-02T07:25:46Z")

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Are you threatening me? Because I can easily traingulate your IP and settle this another way.

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**Author:** ![jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/2AA79B/32.png) [@jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/jmpet)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 7:29am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/12 "2007-06-02T07:29:11Z")

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Please triangulate away, Dick Tracy. And post my home address here. Impress me.

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**Author:** ![jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/2AA79B/32.png) [@jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/jmpet)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 7:44am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/13 "2007-06-02T07:44:32Z")

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\>Ruthless just insulted me so I decided I would do it then and slap his face a little bit and make him feel bad about himself.\<

The two people I have the most respect for here are ruthless- for his honesty and open-mindedness and Darby- for the same reasons.

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**Author:** ![jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/2AA79B/32.png) [@jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/jmpet)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 7:46am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/14 "2007-06-02T07:46:26Z")

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**Last nail in the coffin**

And oh yeah- Kakusagan:

YOU LOSE.

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**Author:** ![Sigo2507](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/A468C6/32.png) [@Sigo2507](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/Sigo2507)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 8:59am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/15 "2007-06-02T08:59:42Z")

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Ruthless, please elaborte more. Don’t mind the trolls.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/2AA79B/32.png) [@jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/jmpet)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 9:13am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/16 "2007-06-02T09:13:52Z")

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Sigo- I can be your bestest friend on equal and humble terms or your worst enemy. We agree 99.999% of the time. You need to step away from the equasions and think bigger.

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**Author:** ![jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/2AA79B/32.png) [@jmpet](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/jmpet)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 9:17am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/17 "2007-06-02T09:17:38Z")

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\>i am trying to understand the whole light speed deal.\<

The way I see it, the entire universe works normally at light speed. In other words, E=MC2. Us “mass-laden beings” are dragged down by, well, our mass and as such operate a less-than-light-speed-speeds.

There was another thread (Sigo’s thread) about God and I posit: it’s harder to prove God does not exist than to prove God exists.

Of course this brings us into the realm of metaphysics, but “every advance in physics is a step towards metaphysics”.

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**Author:** ![Sigo2507](https://timetravelinstitute.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/A468C6/32.png) [@Sigo2507](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/Sigo2507)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2007, 10:09am UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/18 "2007-06-02T10:09:22Z")

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> I can be your bestest friend on equal and humble terms or your worst enemy. We agree 99.999% of the time. You need to step away from the equasions and think bigger.

I’m not here to make friends or enemies. I’m here to have a discussion, and my firstmost concern is the search for truth. I plan to use all my knowledge and experience to do so. And I certainly won’t stop correcting obvious fallacies which are perpetueted by others.

If you too are searching for the real, hard facts, you shouldn’t have a problem with this.

And let us keep this thread free of any more distractions. If JK posts on this thread again, please ignore him. He has three whole threads where we can play with him, which is more than enough.

Back to you, Ruthless.

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**Author:** ![Darby](https://timetravelinstitute.com/user_avatar/timetravelinstitute.com/darby/32/9_2.png) [@Darby](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/Darby)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 10:11pm UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/19 "2007-06-03T22:11:28Z")

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Kaku Sagan has his own thread(s) - this is ruthless’ thread. Let’s put Kaku Sagan on ignore so that ruthless’ thread isn’t hijacked.

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**Author:** ![Darby](https://timetravelinstitute.com/user_avatar/timetravelinstitute.com/darby/32/9_2.png) [@Darby](https://timetravelinstitute.com/u/Darby)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2007, 10:21pm UTC](https://timetravelinstitute.com/t/an-idea/11652/20 "2007-06-03T22:21:18Z")

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ruthless,

Always keep the rules of special relativity in mind when you’re thinking about how time applies to a situation involving velocities approaching light speed.

All inertial observers will measure a photon’s velocity in a vacuum to be 300,000 kps regardless of what their velocities might be with respect to each other.

If you could catch a ride on a photon (travel at the speed of light) you’re correct. Time, your clock stops ticking with respect to the inertial observers (though it appears unaffected from your perspective). You observe their clocks to have stopped (and they, like you, observe no problem with their clocks).

If you look at this a bit deeper you see that light speed isn’t a barrier. It’s a boundry - the boundry in terms of spacetime as the break-point between space and time.

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