Edited Version,
Hello Qronos 16,
I did what you had suggested but unfortunately it seems that I can’t post–something about an invalid host. I afraid I don’t know what that means. Anyway, I’m glad you did not post for me, because took the opportunity to edit it. You don’t need to post it for me but is the edited copy for you to read:
Hello everyone;
This is my first time posting here on this forum, although, I have been registered for almost two years. And, what I would like to say is that in spite of what you may or may not believe about the feasibility of future travelers traversing back in time to our world line, I believe the warning of Oronso 16 has merit. I will also go further and propose that the United States is the modern day paradigm of the Roman Empire.
First, let me state that I’m neither a registered Republican nor a registered Democrat; I’m registered as an Independent. I am not happy with the divisive political spin ‘rhetoric’ that is asking the people of this nation to chose a side. One party controls all three Branches of our government, which the Supreme Court is one of. There remains no system of checks and balance in our government. And I fear the course that the policies of this current government are leading our country towards.
(Has anyone noticed the absence of the color-coded warning to be on the alert for possible terrorists activities? It seems strange since there were quite a few of these alerts issued; leading up to the Iraq War and the Presidential election, and after the election, how suddenly they have stopped. Fear is a wonderful tool when it comes to manipulation.)
Question: Can anyone recall—from history—what brought down the Roman Empire?
In a nutshell, there were four main reasons why it collapsed:
- Endless war
- Loss liberties
- Corruption
- Debt
In the first Gulf War, oil was the impetus for which our government conducted the campaign of war.
In this second Gulf War, oil remains the impetus for which the leaders of our government—who are strongly affiliated with the oil industry—hope to profit from through privatization.
Do you believe the American people would have backed a campaign for war with Iraq if the terrorists hadn’t attacked on 9/11?
The campaign for this war in Iraq was conceived even before the terrorist attacks of 9/11. The administration used fear and manipulated the facts of WMD’s in order to galvanize the citizens of this country into supporting a campaign for war. Once they had secured the backing of congress they counted on and, used Collin Powell—who Americans as well as foreign diplomats from all over the world, trust and think highly of—to sell the war at the U.N. But it was a rush to war and the administration was determined to move ahead with or without the backing of our allies. (As I recall there was a considerable amount of spin denigrating those allies who refused to support the war.) And “SURPRISE,†no “WMS’s†were to be found anywhere. Not only that, this war was entered into without having a clear delineated strategy put into place, first, before taking on this campaign. As a result of these actions, and the administrations arrogance, our reputation has been badly damaged internationally.
As Rumsfeld said, “ You go to war with what you have.†Well our soldiers went to war without having enough armor to protect them. This was a war of choice in which our soldiers should have already had the necessary armor to protect them. Instead a lot of their families had to purchase the necessary life saving equipment for their loved ones.
The administration and the one party who control congress, have continually “flip-floppedâ€â€”spun—this war from the threat of WMD’s to fighting the terrorists over in Iraq—instead fighting them over here (that sort of suggests that our soldiers are being used as clay pigeons for the terrorists) and now it’s the spread of democracy.
Yet, this war continues with no clear end in sight. The daily attacks have gone from 50 a day in 2004 to over 90 a day presently. And the sectarian violence among the Iraqi people—civil war—continues to escalate; there is the danger of it spilling over into the surrounding nations and causing wide spread instability in the Middle East. Our soldiers—God help them—are caught in the middle and under a great deal of stress; having been deployed 2, 3, and even 4 times. What are they being asked to sacrifice their lives for? Can anyone provide me with a valid reason, one in which you would even give your life for? And how would you define victory? Hence, this is America’s endless war.
We are loosing a lot of our liberties in the name of security. Do you actually believe that once you have relinquished a liberty that you will be offered it back? I doubt it! Is this what you really want? Isn’t liberty a part of what makes a republic a democracy? Isn’t that the reason, as the President has stated, we wage this war to protect our liberties and freedom from the tyranny of others? Yet the President and the one party congress have been enacting policies that deny us some of our liberties. All of this is being done under the guise of security. In addition, there is a great deal of data mining taking place in which information on American citizens is being captured and placed into massive database. Two weeks ago I read an article in the LA Times newspaper that Alberto Gonzales had a number of environmentalists recently arrested and labeled them as terrorists. Does that mean they will also be treated as terrorists? Just a thought.
The Supreme Court ruled Thursday—June 15, 06—that police may rush into a house without giving a required warning to the occupants and may use the evidence they find there. They also weakened the protection for whistle-blowers in and outside of the government. This is probably the beginning of even more liberties being striped away.
How many of you believe the NSA is not involved in other dubious covert operations? Think again!
There has been considerable coverage on the pay to play lobbying antics in Washington lately. It appears that the average American citizen can’t afford to pay the cost to play for congress to listen. A revolving door exists among some members of congress—and their staff—and the lobbyists. Some members in the administration and congress are bedfellows with special interest groups over on K Street (especially the oil, banking, and pharmaceutical industries). It is these special interest groups, which have the attention of congress. After all, aren’t they providing the large sums of money for the campaigns? And that’s just the tip of the iceberg, as they say.
Halliburton and its subsidiary, KBR, were handed exclusive no-bid open-ended contracts for their services in Iraq. Bunny Greenhouse, who was the highest-ranking procurement officer in the Corps of Engineers, stated that KBR had performed “the most blatant contract abuse I have ever witnessed.†When she discovered that KBR was overcharging the government 61 billion dollars and that the Corps of Engineers had issued a waiver for payment, not only was she threatened to keep quiet but she was demoted and replace by an administration crony—who has NO experience with procurement contracts at all.
Did you know that KBR charges the government—taxpayers—for 42,000 meals per day when only 14, 000 are actually served?!
Did you know that KBR insist on having their logo place on face towels for the troops so they can charge twice the amount?!
Did you know that the food they serve our troops have passed their expiration date? They also charge $45. per case for coke!
Did you know that the water supplied by KBR for our troops is more contaminated than the water in the Euphrates River?!!
Those are just a very few examples of the waste, fraud and widespread abuse that is occurring over in just Iraq, against the American taxpayer. Under this administration there has been more blatant fraud, waste and abuse of taxpayers money than any other time in the history of our nation!
There are members in the administration and in congress who have been greatly profiting from this ongoing war.
Corruption runs rampant!!
Did you know that the U.S has more debt than all of the other nations on earth combined?!
Did you also know that all of the tax cuts passed by this congress comes with a cost of over 1.9 trillion dollars in lost revenue over the next decade?!!
Did you know that this President and the Republican lead congress have accumulated more debt than all of the 42 previous presidents combined?!
Did you know that the President and congress have raised the limit on borrowing from foreign nations five times—the most recent rise of this cap occurred last month?!
Did you know that the cost of the war in Iraq is 8 billion dollars a month; double the cost in 04?!
Did you know that this President and Congress have been selling off America and our security, piece by piece every time they go to foreign nations to borrow money? Our debt to China and Japan alone, totals in at over a trillion dollars. That doesn’t include the other debts we owe to other nations. Hek! That before INTEREST!
Did you know that the cost of the war is not included in the president’s budget? It is hidden away in emergency supplemental spending bills.
If our economy is doing so well, why is this country going deeper and deeper into debt? How fiscally responsible, do you believe our government has been? It seems that the rich are getting richer and the middle class and the poor are paying for it. And, the chasm that exists in-between is growing wider. The “Robbing Hoods†of the administration and congress have been taking the monies from programs—and others completely cut out—that have been funded to help the less fortunate, the elderly, and struggling students, in order to help pay for the tax cuts enjoyed by the rich 1% in this nation. They will attempt to dismantle all entitlement programs as well, in order to cover the cost of some of these tax cuts, under the guise of being fiscally responsible.
We are in deep trouble of losing our nation and the core principles on which it was founded. We are headed towards the same fate as Rome. It is conceivable that our American Roman Empire could collapse unless enough of its citizens wakeup and realize they need to take back their country. You have been warned by John Titor and are continually being warned by Oronos 16 and others. I only hope you will listen.
Sincerely,
Iceblue
P.S. I do agree with you about the NWO 100%. We the citizens of this nation are in a lot of trouble. Thank you once again for taking the time to warn us.
God Bless You
and have a safe journey
Sincerely
Teri Mc.