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Ha I knew that you would try to make MMA a barbaric thing, this is what all Guys like you do.

Face to face is the only way to prove anything with words!

No threat, MMA is the true sport. You should do some research and see what the next boom in sports is.

There are rules it is not throwing weights, it is a controlled fight! It takes place in a professional gym, so not a fight like you think.
This is however is a fight you will bleed, and i bet get knocked out. This is not kick boxing, wrestling, BJJ, karate or any other one dimensional sport…

This is not a anger thing this the highest test of your mental, how your brain handles fear and pain and what you do with it…fight or flight…

In primitive times you would not have a meal for the night!

The difference is I have already stepped in your world, here in your comfort zone.

It is ok to dick tuck, like 5% of males can not do MMA, so it is ok!

Again this is not a threat!

Also do not believe this man he works for a company that makes TONS of $$ from this government in place!

You have personal reasons to falsely disprove this!

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No, you have not, sir. This forum is not my world. My world is that of engineering design and analysis of the most high-tech vehicles on the planet. A world where your physical prowess means nothing, but your analytical and scientific abilities mean everything. Quite a different world than your Mixed Martial Arts or this forum.

I have never once claimed to be good in “your world”. Yet I have seen enough of your analytical abilities in other threads to know you would “bleed” if you had to function in my world. A different sort of “bleeding”…

RMT

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This is another false statement by rainman!

I can learn anyhting you can learn, fact! You can not learn to take a punch!

I do not hate you, I am not mad at you, you always put people in there place this is a taste of it for you!

Over with this post!
Please let it die, I win.

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That is what it’s all about for you. And what you really do not like is when you do NOT win. [quote]
I can learn anyhting you can learn, fact!
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That is quite disputable, because I know there are things other people have learned that I, myself, can NOT learn (like chemistry). If you really wish to prove your fact, then I would like to see you learn, and apply partial differential, non-linear mathematics. GO!

This is true. And there is little effort involved. One is a passive participant in such an endeavor.

Why do you feel that you need to “win”?
RMT

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First of all, you know nothing about me.

However…

You enter into an arena of intellectual debate, and bring in the offer of making RainmanTime bleed. It doesnt matter what name you put on it…“sport”..ok. If that helps you settle with your conscious.

I was once like you, but evolved past that point. I can understand using the physical and mental training to bring about a balance of self.

However, you challenge someone in this forum to a fight…like a bully at recess…I thought that those who are masters in the Art never seek out to fight anyone as you have.

Perhaps you didnt notice the title(s) of these forums ?

I dont recall it states that this site contains any forums on the making of threats of physical violence…and dont try to hide the threat you have indeed made.

Anyone who is comfortable with their status as a man , doesnt need to go around looking to prove it. It is something borne from within, as you should well know.

What RainmanTime does as a job keeps our pilots safe by flying aircraft that they can rely on.
RainnmanTime also takes the time to teach at a major University.

If you knew all the things he has done for you , and there are many,many things that he has done for you , you should be thanking him.

If you actually took the time to read more of his posts, maybe, there are some things you could learn.

You, sir, go peddle your violence elsewhere.

We dont need it here.

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Hey overland you sir are a tool! This had nothing to do with you Mr. Attention whore.

“Guys like you” is a statement I made to rainman…talk about school yard bully attempts.
(You said guys like him and I claim to be like him so I am now going to stick my nose in)

Nice try to spin it into a threat, a challenge was made nothing more, from his post I would assume he was a alpha male, I figured that he took huge challenges to test himself.
Do not try and gum up a beautiful sport with your lack of knowledge. this just makes your claim of knowledge look worse then the TT claims.

But you go ahead and check into the laws cowboy.

You have no clue about MMA.

You also have never been like me or ever will.

I think the masters you are talking about use to be on sat am -Karate movies-

Just because you are not able to compete or even know jack about our most physical of sports is no need to belittle them…

This is just a discriminating comment! Are you a racist?

The fact is that life is about test, goal, and accomplishments, to seek out the best and see what you got!

Over…. pffft.

rainman
Look my last fight I lost, I was undefeated for 2 years, so not winning in my game hurts!

The test is to not cry and never do it again but to learn and become better.

Just so you know Over, he will be tougher than my last opponent. If you hope I loose maybe it will come true.

Fact: I am not scared to find out~!

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Why do I get the feeling that all this started because you didn’t like the answers I gave you in your chemtrails thread?

Look, Tik: I have willfully admitted and agreed with you that I could not be successful in your “sport”. Hell, there are any number of people in the world who could kick my ass (and yours too), which is why I pack heat as my means of self-defense. But if this fact, that I have agreed to, makes you feel good about yourself and better than me in that way, fine. If you feel you have “won”, I would have to ask what, exactly, you think you have “won” if I admit you are right?

But are you also prepared to take on another aspect of being a man? Being a man is not ONLY about physical prowess and being able to make people bleed and feel pain. Another aspect of a REAL man is when you can admit areas you are not necessarily “good” in. As such, I have admitted I could not “win” in your “sport”.

But now it’s your turn. Are you willing to admit that, perhaps, some of the things you THINK HAPPENED on 9/11 are not supported by scientific facts? Are you willing to admit that, perhaps, you are not technically qualified to evaluate whether some of the conspiracy theories you may have bought-into are actually true? If you are not willing to do this, then my previous comments about your ability to “win” in my world still stand as true.

I may be wrong about this being related to my comments to you in your chemtrails thread, but it seems that it was with that thread that you suddenly decided to “put me in my place” as you put it.

RMT

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If your reply wasnt directed to me, then your post shouldn’t have indicated it was regarding my post.

You are right,I am nothing like you, nor will ever be as you ( are now ).

Rainman is a friend of mine, and I had no intention of grabbing any attention, but will stand up for those I consider to be friends, even though I know he is fully capable of doing so himself. I have personally met with the man, and know what he really is like as a man.

Do you not speak up and stand by your friends?

A racist against violence, then, yes, you could say that I am a racist.

I can understand that as well.

As an example, I got caught in a blizzard at high altitude ( 11,000 + ) ( a white out ) . Couldn’t even see the trail anymore. Had to break out the map and compass and make my way to the mountain top without being able to see the landscape.

The wind was raging, and it was freezing. It took hours to reach the mountain top, despite the obstacles involved. That, too, is a test, a goal, and accomplishment, to BRING OUT THE BEST, and see what you got. To stand up afterward and exclaim, THANK-YOU, GOD. WE DID IT! What a feeling. Nothing quite like it.

I pit myself against nature, to overcome anything that is thrown down, and survive. The stakes are life and death.

As an ordained priest ( as of December,2004 ),I will always speak out against any action/activity that involves violence.

Understand, I realize that there are things to be done to test ourselves, to find out what our limitations are, and use the lessons learned to become stronger, and expand the parameters of those limitations.

There are choices as to what challenges we can face. If you want a challenge, go down to a childrens hospital and bring some joy into the life of the children. With your training and successes, maybe some of the children facing terrible times ahead, would listen to your words of experience of what it is like to fight and win.

You may be the greatest man on earth, I just don’t agree with the “sport”. Nor do I believe that your challenge…

directed to Ray, or anyone here, was appropriate on this forum.

Sometimes the lesson is in the losing, not just the winning. You certainly are not any less of a man if you lose a match, than if you win. You are who you are, regardless. And who you are from within, nobody can take away, and discovering who you really are within, is the best prize of all.

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Can I call you Tik’O or Tik’man for short? Get a grip with your self man. You should try a much calmer Martial Arts in your training regimen. You are perhaps to highly sprung from your training and have to learn to accept some loses from time to time. May I recommended Aikido? You will find it highly effective, and it’s philosophy behind it can assist in giving you the ability to cope with a defeat.

But life is too short to be dwelling on your past failings. Take it from the TTA, I’ve had more punches (both physical and verbal ones) from all sides thrown at me to know, that I can live in the past, or move on, forgive and get on with what’s really important in my life.

Hopefully you have other things to fall back on, family, friends, school. I know it’s probably not easy; I too have been in the Martial Arts for many years, and I too have claimed many of victories in and outside the mat. Some of which I am proud of, and others perhaps not so proud of. What you need to learn Tik’O dude, is that sometimes a win can be a short lived win, depending on how much you have sacrificed of your character in order to have justified in obtaining your win.

I’m reminded of a saying, I am not sure where it’s stated, but it goes something like this: “What does it merit a man if he gains the world, but loses his soul in the process.”

But I can understand where you are also coming from, 2yrs of being undefeated, WOW that’s great, you should be proud that you’ve been able to hold on to it for that long. But did you really think you would be undefeated forever? Is this all you have planned for the rest of your life? To fight?

Grant it, this place is probably not your specialty and others may also boast and show-off in their abilities in much the same way that you probably do in your habitat (perhaps not as excessive and violent). Ultimately, what is one really trying to prove with these approaches? Superiority over those less than capable than us?

Whatever the reason, you can always choose to engage people respectfully regardless of the wars going inside your head. There is no need to take it out on others only to prove how hurt you are inside. Allow this loss to humble you, and make you aware of your mortality, you are only human. It seems safe to say that everyone here has shown you courtesy when speaking with you, and even still now in dealing with your hostility. You should feel appreciative of that, and perhaps you should thank them for being so understanding and apologize for being so rude to them.

Trust me dude, you’ve received far better treatment then I’ve received, consider your self lucky.

TTA

P.S. As always OvLrdLegion, you have a knack for finding the best diplomatic means to assess & calm the situation with your words. I envy your ability . This place needs a conscience, and you fit that role perfectly.

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And someone please remind me because I’m a bear of very little brain:

All of this “I can kick your ass” talk has what to do with Time Travel Claims?

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I agree with you rain, I can not give you facts that my field of study has provided me. However I do have common sense.

I also can not disagree with chemtrails, after I read threw the info you presented. So you are wrong.This is the reason I let it die!

Things about the WTC do not sit right with me, Iam not sure they ever will, then you are always MR Know it all, no one can ever tell you anything, this set me off.

Again I do not hate, I was never angry at you. I just decided to see if you knowing everything would help you with this kind of “dual”.

Are you 100% satisfied with all the information giving to you on that day of 911?

If so pffft.

I have won nothing here.

There is no reason to attack like a kid with bad manners 0ver.
I am board of this! Let’s get back to the entertainment.

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In response to: Things about the WTC do not sit right with me, Iam not sure they ever will, then you are always MR Know it all, no one can ever tell you anything, this set me off.

You are so right, that guy thinks he knows it all. Millions and Millions of Americans are now waking up to the fact that 9-11 was an inside job. Even the families of the victims are waking up to the fact that 9-11 was an inside job. And getting back on topic, Qronos said that near election time more terror threats would suddenly come up. For the past 2 to 3 weeks nothing but terror this and terror that all over the news. A tactic that those guys have been using for the past 5 years to scare Americans. I am so happy that more and more Americans are waking up to the fact that elements of this government are evil and carried out with military precision the attacks that killed all those innocent people on 9-11-01. I think you are a smart man Tikmovado, and to stay updated on what is really going on here are some good website’s for you to stay informed: http://www.nworeport.com and http://www.infowars.com

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Yo Peeps,

You use the term “fact” quite loosely. And I might add you seem to be so weak-minded that you are accepting the speculations of people like Alex Jones (and that is exactly what they are) as if they are fact. They are not. Do you think you could actually give me FACTS (not speculation) that support your statements?

Let me give you one very poor version of speculation that I, and other aircraft experts, have torn-up completely. One of Alex Jones’ favorite “sources” to cite about how this was an “inside job” is one Donn de-Grand Pre. One of de-Grand Pre’s “facts” was that the airplanes were either flown by military pilots or by remote control, and he further stated that the airplane that hit the Pentagon “pulled from 5 to 8 G’s” which no amateur could have ever flown. Well, he is partially right… but no PROFESSIONAL could fly a passenger aircraft at 5-8 G’s either! You see, these are the kinds of speculations that are positively LAUGHABLE by experts in the field because of this FACT that you can check up on:

NO COMMERICAL PASSENGER AIRCRAFT WOULD HOLD TOGETHER WHEN PULLING ANY MORE THAN 3.5 G’s! If AA flight 77 had pulled even 5 G’s the wings would have shorn-off before it could have ever reached the Pentagon.

So this is just ONE example of where conspiracy theorists continue to ignore REAL FACTS, and still insist upon believing people who float these bogus conspiracy theories. Weak minds! That is all I can say.

When you are ready to discuss REAL FACTS (and not rumor, inneundo, or speculation) I would be happy to debate you on such FACTS.

RMT

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I agree, A true sport in every sense of the word. However this is also its relative double edged sword.

True, but you would not have had the aid of creatine, muscle gaining supplements, a mouth guard, jock strap and a ‘Big Jon’ to pull the other guy off you before he bite your ear off.

I agree and training in MMA myself i would also say it is only ONE personal avenue to learn these. All these can be learnt by facing anything that you are not good at but want to confront. A willingness to break the mould, deserves anyones respect.

I agree again, however lets not forget it IS still a sport. Possibly as realistic as licensed sport can be. I have seen people get knocked out and bleed from other ‘lesser’ contact sports. However if you believe that MMA makes you an Alpha Male you are mistaken. If you put some-one in a triangle choke on the street, his mate would start kicking your head in from the sidelines. MM lacks in may areas. All these forms that you mention and dismiss STILL have the ability to invoke in some people what they might not have done in you, personally.

The biggest lacking area it lacks is real Fight Psychology. I mean as in, “this guy has a knife - I REALLY am at the make or break point of my life”. A real ‘Alpha Male’ also learns how to talk a fight down - rather then up (as in MMA). This is the mental aspect, where all efforts should truly (and do) always start from. MMA is a VERY valuable tool for all martial artist to learn to adapt. For others (i fear you may be one) The false sense of ego that it allows will make you resented, or at worst - get you in trouble. There are two ‘Fight or flight’ senarios. One created by the fragile ego to protect itself (‘ring/octagon/cage’ in this sense). The other is the genuine one which makes your blood turn to ice as you wonder if this is going to be ‘it’. MMA is not the latter and Ego has no place here.

The Ego fears pain. Hense why some people get off on it. Fear of death comes from a deeper part of mentality.

I believe that both RMT and Ovrlrd, have had valuable experiences in their life that would probably scare you in ways you’d never thought of before…you never know people until you know them.

Regards,
Olly

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Exactly, in which case Qrono’s ‘information’ that this would occur is nothing special. Its just logic. Terrorists want to create civil/political panic. When would you do it…How about election time, to really disrupt the democratic process that represents the ‘free world’?

Maybe i should be paid as a ‘civil war’ disinformant. What an easy job these Titors and Qronos have!

Kind regards,
Olly

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In response to: You use the term “fact” quite loosely. And I might add you seem to be so weak-minded that you are accepting the speculations of people like Alex Jones (and that is exactly what they are) as if they are fact.

See here we go again, you calling people names like a little kid or something. You seem like a person who had a bad childhood. You come across to me as a little man who has to constantly put people down to make yourself feel big. I researched the info about 9-11 myself. The facts are we have been lied to. So instead of putting people down like a little boy who got some candy stolen from him at school, why don’t you go and research it for yourself. Stop getting on this board and harassing people when they are simply trying to talk to people about different issues. Grow up kid.

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Peepo,

Now let’s see if you recognize these words:

“Boo hoo boo hoo!!! That mean old peepo called me a name boo hoo boo hoo!!! Grow up! You are truly sad.”

So let me get this straight: YOU are supposed to be able to call people to task, and even call them names, but if anyone else does that to YOU, all of a sudden the rules change? Right!

And BTW, I did not call you any names. I merely expressed my opinion that you are weak-minded based on the people whose propaganda you believe.

I am still waiting for your “facts”. You slyly avoided laying any out for myself (and others) to assess.

I think you might be the one who needs to grow up.
RMT

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He works for a company that makes TONS of cash from this government, he will spin anything.

Also the same company that makes the drone that hit the pentagon…
Ha-ha anti air defenses?? Where was it that day? Hmmm down…Transponders??? off…so any plane can fly in our airspace and not be found if they do not want to be located, wow …we all remember the 40+ min of "where is that plane "..Hmmm
Good to know that all any terrorists would have to do to repeat this is to turn off there transponder…

Why was the wreckage sold to china ASAP for recycle before we tested it or even studied it.?

Why was there no Test done on the building wreckage. Would Thermite show up?

Who was in charge of the world trade centers security and his contract up 9/11–Marvin Bush-Bush’s brother.

Why did Larry Silverstein take out a record insurance policy on the complex in June of that year?

Why was a gag order placed on firefighters? This was an attacked right?

I have personally be on location of three demolition and I have been a spectator on two others, I have never heard of or have heard of concrete slabs slamming into each other with enough force to make a explosion sound. NEVER. Explosions sound so much different than material falling.
I have been on 8 demolition site that did not use explosives and I tell you that are loud when they fall but nothing like implosion.

What are 2 big differences in none imploded demolition and an imploded demolition?

1: Pyroclastic flow. The dust and concrete blown apart looks to flows like lava from a volcano!

I believe only two things can create this effect.
Implosions & volcanos

2: Falling in on it self.
The center core is taken out first so the walls fall in on each other!
Do not try to say this is the same in all demolition it is not!

In a normal take down with out implosions there is dust but nothing like on 911.

This is a very small bit of what does not sit well with me on 911 I have TONS MORE…and rainman’s spin sounds like the TT he bags on all day…You only answer question that play into your plan, and you avoid the hard ONES and answer the easy ones with garbage SPIN!

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I don’t care what you call me, I’m making a point about you. How you always have to put people down or call them some kind of name. I will say it again, you come across to me as a little man who has to constantly put people down to make yourself feel big. As for me proving something to you? I don’t think so, your smart go research it like millions of other people have.

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That is correct! You are right.