Poll - Is Recall out of line with doom and gloom.

The Institute
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Is Recall out of line posting doom and gloom?
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No

Recalls post in the past of doom and gloom I always thought was in line with TTI because it was a prediction of the future. TTI allows people to come here all the time and predict the future and never have I saw Rainman stop them from doing so. So why now is Rainman as mod stoping Recall from posting doom and gloom? In my train of thought it is talking about the future which is talking about Time. Also I find Recalls post very humerous sometimes. You have got to admit he post some pretty good pictures.

Apocalypse (Greek: Ἀποκάλυψις Apokálypsis; “lifting of the veil” or “revelation”) is a term applied to the disclosure to certain privileged persons of something hidden from the majority of humankind. Today the term is often used to refer to the end of the world, which may be a shortening of the phrase apokalupsis eschaton which literally means “revelation at the end of the æon, or age”. In the holy book of the Christians, the Bible, the term apocalypse refers to a revelation believed by Christians to be of their God’s will.

If TTI can allow others to come here and make predictions and talk about the future and about doom and gloom then I think TTI is way out of line from stoping Recall from post. I would like to hear everyone elses view and please take the poll. Thank you. Reactor1967

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Please excuse my writing mistakes. I can,t edit a poll so I can,t fix them.

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Re Is Recall out of line with doom and gloom?

Rainmain is following his not so secret agenda here on TTI…

Just see how he try to deny every that is related to “Timetravel”, and when is Questioned he said that he has sign a “non disclosure contract” and work on the “Black -Secrets- projects” of TPTB!
guess what project?

TimeTravel!

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Here we go again. I have made some of these points to you before, but I guess they need to be said again…

Predicting the future <> (is not equal to) Time travel

I would think you could clearly understand that, and am not sure why you do not. Maybe it just takes me pointing this out to you. In my retorts to Peter in Zeshua’s thread I have clearly been predicting the future, and I have pointed out that it clearly does not make me a time traveler. So, even if you predict the future correctly, it does NOT make you a time traveler.

And recently we have had a few members express their opinion that constant predictions of the future <> time travel, and they have also said it gets annoying reading constant predictions of gloom and doom about the future. IMO, when those predictions NEVER come true yet the gloom and doom BS continues… that is trollish behavior and annoying. So consider that I am now just becoming stricter in STAYING ON TOPIC and keeping the right topic in the right forum.

Please show me ONE example where I have STOPPED him. This is the thing I have pointed out to you many times before, and yet you accuse me falsely: I have NEVER squelched you or recall from posting your thoughts. I have NOT deleted your posts, and only on rare occasions have I had to refer other people to Raul. What I HAVE done is issue warnings for off-topic, ad nauseum gloom and doom. There is a conspiracy forum here and there is also a paranormal forum. Those kinds of topics are more suited to those forums, NOT time travel.

Predictions <> time travel. The first two forums are very clear when you read their summaries:

Have you ever dreamt of traveling through time? Of changing history? Of knowing the future? Join us as we discuss the hows and whys of time travel. And maybe… just maybe… your dreams will come true.

Hows and whys of time travel <> weak predictions of the future that anyone can do. Got it? And from the TT claims forum:

Claims about success and experiments in time travel.

It does not say anything about claims of predicting the future based on bogus internet hoaxes from others sites. Paranormal or Conspiracy forums are more akin to that kind of stuff. Post it over there. Keep the constant gloom and doom predictions OUT of the TT forums. Capiche???

Another absolutely false claim, and this time I am going to ask that you apologize for incorrectly characterizing my actions. I have NEVER, NOT ONCE, stopped recall from posting…and you damn well know it!

For the last time: You have a broad range of freedoms on this forum to post most anything you want, as long as you keep it in the right forum. Rarely do we take diciplinary actions with people around here. And there have been NONE taken against either you or recall…so get off your fraking high horse, alright? If you and recall get your jollies from posting constant gloom and doom (and it does not seem that you do, reactor, but you seem to be sticking up for recall, so I can only assume you like that kind of stuff), then you are free to do it… but keep it in the right forum.

Finally, as a result of you posting this poll and mischaracterizing my actions, you have now caused me to accelerate my enforcement of remaining on-topic. (IOW there are consequences to your actions, reactor). From this moment on I am going to be more strict about off-topic, constant gloom and doom and making sure it is in the right forum. Take note of this (both you and recall) and when I believe it is getting out of hand, I will simply move it to the right forum… no more warnings for recall on this, as he has had plenty.

Thank you,
RMT

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Re: Re Is Recall out of line with doom and gloom?

I know recall… you have wet dreams where you think you know what I do in my classified work. You like to play pretend. You really do wish you knew. But here is some reality for you: You have absolutely no clue what I do for the US GOV. Nada. Clueless. But have fun pretending you know, and projecting me as the bad guy. Maybe it just comes from jealousy? I realize that a lot of people in the world wish they could work on advanced aerospace vehicles, but not everyone has the skills. So if it is jealousy, I feel bad for you.

RMT

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Re: Re Is Recall out of line with doom and gloom?

Bi-polar Rainman is discloses that he work on advanced aerospace vehicles

like:

the Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit Stealth Bomber
the Aurora
Lockheed-Martin’s X-33A
Boeing and Airbus Industries’ Nautilus
the TR3-A Pumpkinseed
the TR3-B Triangle
Northrop’s Great Pumpkin disc
Teledyne Ryan Aeronautical’s XH-75D
Shark antigravity helicopter
Lockheed-Martin and Northrop’s jointly-developed TAW-50 hypersonic antigravity fighter-bomber

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Exibit A

this is the Exhibit A:

Quoting Bipolar RMT:

ust as I had promised in my latest warning to recall, he insisted upon adding more conspiracy claptrap to this thread. So since the majority of what is in this thread provides no evidence of a TT claim, but instead talks about conspiracies… this whole thread has now been moved to the Conspiracy forum.

Have fun in your new home recall, Charlie and all the rest…
RMT

GOTCHA BIPOLAR RMT!!!

If you mess with the Threads you CAN and Will Mess with Other People Private Messages…

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Re: Exibit A

Your conclusion does not logically follow from your alleged evidence.

You must first prove that I have any power to do anything with any PMs other than my own. Of course we know you cannot prove that, because it is not true.

If you actually were able to prove that, then your conclusion above might have a snowball’s chance in hell of being proven. But not until then.

I could always have Raul, or any other UBB forum Mop for that matter, come here and validate that my MOD status does not give me any privs to do anything with any other account’s PM.

What would you do then, recall, if I had this happen to prove something is not true that your claims rely on as being true?

You are showing your ignorance of predicate logic and proofs therein.
RMT

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On the example part the other day you said you would lock a thread down. I read your post and I see you are angry. My post was ment more about attacking TTI which you are a part of rather than your character.

Right now according to the poll it appears to be in favor of letting Recall post his gloom and doom not that the people who are kind enough to hang around here and post on a consistant basis which gives the site its traffic have any say so.

Yes this sight is about time travel but part of the lure from my perspective is about what the future might look like. Recall is not the only one here that post about a dim future for mankind but he is the only one here getting into trouble for it. His post have been a fixture around here for some time now you want to re-arrange this place.

I agree this site could use more time travel and less gloom and doom but that is a rarity around here. What to do to fix this? Try to encourge it or nudge it in the right direction. I myself have been thinking about modeling the universe and see if I could fit in how that might occure but from my past experience here people don,t respond very well to technical stuff.

So back to the discussion about Recall. I think time travel conversation should be encourged but running off the gloom and doomers just mean less post and traffic for TTI. The subject of free speech has come up with you often. If you as a member/mod of TTI have free speech then I don,t see why others can,t have it too. Good day to you RMT.

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You are again getting confused. Locking a thread because someone posts off-topic material is a very valid MOD action. Moreover, that is not at all equivalent with stopping someone from posting. I again ask you to show me where I have ever stopped recall from posting. You cannot. And making him post in the proper forum and not take a thread off-topic into gloom and doom land is most certainly NOT stopping him from posting.

And this is why the very premise of your poll is misguided to begin with. Recall continues to retain the right to post his gloom and doom… just not in any and every forum that he pleases. To explain it again since it seems you are getting confused: Recall is not being forced to stop posting, only to keep his posts confined to the correct forum. Can you see the difference? (I would appreciate an answer.)

And since it seems you do not understand why he is getting in trouble I will explain again: It is because such posts of gloom and doom constantly show up everywhere. This is what I am cracking down on. Once again I state that I hope this clarifies where you are confused.

There is a difference between “running them off” and “letting them have the run of any and every forum.” How would you like it if I started posting about Qabalah on ever single forum, or in every thread of a forum that is not about Qabalah/spiritual topics? I don’t think you would. So I am asking you to achieve clarity on what I am doing and how it is very different than what you claim I am doing.

The only way others are deprived of free speech here is if they violate the rules and are banned. Acting like a MOD and doing a MOD’s job of making sure one theme does not overrun all the various forums is actually a good thing, and it does not in any way violate someone’s free speech rights to post what they want… only prevents them from posting their thoughts in the wrong place.

And to make sure you are clear on this, I would again ask you to get your head around how and why what you are claiming I am doing, and what I am actually doing are quite different. You are confused and I hope I have helped you become a little less confused. Good day.

RMT

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When you tell someone to stop and make threats as a mod you are stopping them. Again you are not listening to me. I will agree we both disagree here.

Well you using the term misguided is not new here. According to your past post you think most people here are misguided. My post was a correct (please read that again.) A correct attempt to find out what the majority felt about this and do it in a nice way at the proper place. As for a correct place I would suggest TTI create a profithecy (Misspelled) and predictions thread since most that come here seem to do make predictions instead of posting time travel stuff in the time threads. If you wanted to give recall a place that would do it. Im not confused RMT I am disagreeing with you. Why is it that people who disagree with you have to have a problem? I would love an answer to that and I am sure others would too.

Here is my major disagreement with this statement. When the HDR kid thread was going in the claims sections I don,t remember the mod ever comeing in. You and everyone else including myself threw that thread off topic. Some times Darby would say something but I don,t ever remember the Mod coming in on that. You yourself many times throw threads off mainly because you want to continue a fight and no one stops you. No mod, no Darby, no body stops you. You do what ever you want and have been for a long time. I don,t believe recall needs stopped. He is on topic he is talking about the future just like most that come here do and it has never been a problem. This is where you stop listening to me and call me confused. Im not confused I am disagreeing with you and only you think that is a problem. I don,t.

I can understand you wanting to stop the doom and gloom in every forum that is why I suggested the predictions and prophecy board. But, there again as in threads the topic does sometimes go off topic. You yourself and just about everybody here has thrown a thread off topic. Usually not on the same topic as gloom and doom all the time but it has been done. Sometimes it seems like a normal day when that happens. What are you going to do about that? Who stops you when you do it? And yes you do do it. I don,t belive you should post as a TTI member and be the Mod of the same board. What ever you are mod of I don,t think it is right you should be able to post as a member to it because it does create a conflict of interest. Why should you be able to take a thread off topic and not be stoped? It is not right.

Yeah but still you get to do what ever you want and no one stops you. I don,t think you should be a TTI member and a Mod of the same board. It creates a conflict of interest.