The strange case of Razimus:

The strange case of Razimus:

There exist a problem with Razimus being here in the technical sense.

She says, that she feels that she has debunked the Montauk Project, by her trip, as shown to the general old Montauk Air Force base site.

She has taken pictures and everything, which she had posted on the web.

In one of these pics, and I don’t know if she still has them up, she said they saw a guard, who was not part of the normal set-up and when they saw him, he kind-of faded into the background in a self conscious way?

This may or may not be the truth?

The problem here at TTI, is that we deal in time travel.

So other says in the area of time travel, do at times come here.

Here mentioned at this posting board, are some of these problems.

At Anomalies.net, it was said that a person had seen resutrant signs overnight materize from nowhere.

And even when he went into the resutant and asked about these signs, they said, that they had awlsy been there.

Here is what was involved with Montauk and the projects Rainbow and Phoenix.

Both time travel, teleportation and in all probability, massive time waves, which could have possibly changed the nature of what we realize as now?

So if Razimus is debunking the said Montauk effects, then this shifts the blame to current time travelers, who now may be all proper rules and protocols, visit here or what relative here, is in this time?

So what Razimus is doing, is shifting the blame for all time travel irregularities, to time travelers, legal successful not successful in general.

Montauk never happened and there were no rainbow and Phoenix teleportation projects.

Thirdly, there has been telling in the UFO community, that there are other time gates, that are government controlled in the American Southwest, which are also used by aliens for interstellar travel.

According to Razimus, these also do not exist.

So her doing what she’s doing, affects the legal blame, in the area of time disturbances, to time travelers only.

Natural time shift happenings occur by large underground meteors, which bend both space and time.

There are also time and space field shifts, that by FATE Magazine’s telling, also have been know to take people inside of them right before their companions.

So in the natural faze of affairs time irregularities do exist, however not to the extent of a time gate, or interstellar transport method of apparatus.

Why debunk it Razimus, if it is not worth any value?

I don’t know am not clear here and don’t understand why you have to debunk this at all?

What a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to decieve.

Pull the first loose thread you find, and to the man behind the curtain, pay no mind.

Timeline79

I’ve never seen any guard dissappear, where did you get that story? Answer me that batman. Where is your source? The only sources you offered were, “the UFO community” and “FATE Magazine”. Both aren’t very reliable, am I in the tabloids? I didn’t know I was famous, heheh. Also I haven’t debunked anything.

  • Raz

I’m not Batman.

Batman was a fictional character, who was is prominate in both comic books, as well as in moving visual media/

I am not Batman.

In your past photoexposea, which was on the web, in pictures taken of Camp Hero and I quote, By the treeline, there was it seems a guard dressed in a vest of some sort and when he saw us, he backed away into the surrounding brush.

To this effect unquote.

The mind is a multiphase quantum dynamic.So unlike an android, due to the ability to sense a perception of time, the exact telling of what you said,. per say, is not one hundred percent.

However what is claret here, is the context of the structure intended of what you had said.

Which was the core thought, you and someone else saw a guard, who then saw you two and at this exchange of eye contact, he felt that he was discovered.

In this respect then, this said by you guard, then backed into the foliage behind him.

What I am after here in this thread, is why would you state that possibly that either Preston Nichols of other were either brain damaged, or under the influence of drugs?

The primary information stream concerning any teleporting gate, comes from the web site, the Black Vault, where it is said that there is a star gate, so to speak in the American Southwest.

This device now is said to function, so this would be the main control data for the additional claim, that project Rainbow and Project Phoenix, were both operational beneath the grounds of Camp Hero, or in an approximate location, to where their use was recorded.

There is no reason other than cruelty, or need of money to post your survey the way that you did at TTI, this way?

What is of concern to me, is that by you debunking anything about the said Montauk Camp Hero said time travel use into the future, in order to observe how then did then, is that the claim of a variance of 73% time divergence, is now placed squarely on anyone using any sort of either time travel device, or scalier displacement device.

This is why this thread was posted at all.

There are questions now being raised, such as is the need for money for you to do this, what is motivating you?

So the question is now raised poster Razimus and you must answer this question here, How do you feel about anyone using any sort of time travel device, in order to time travel?

The second question raised, is how do you feel about scalier displacement devices in general, in order to transcend supposed barriers in scalierspace and time?

In order to have any sort of credulity you must now answer these questions, as everyone is now looking at your motivation for the caustic surveys concerning all Montauk people.

I always thought that Raz was a bloke about my age for some reason?

Maybe i just assumed that a girls woudnt be interested in posting about time travel, to busy washing their hair (i get that a lot) or something (sorry Raz, just kidding :slight_smile:)

Anyway i’m getting a little off topic here.

I have never read Razimus claiming that Preston was on drugs or subject to mind control (i havent read the all past postings on this forum yet). But if this was said i would quite agree (at least in its possibility). Preston (if memory serves) is again affiliated with the montauk project when it re-opened in the 90’s. Therefore i suggest anything he says is taken with a pinch of salt. I also would say that Al Bielek especially has no doubt been subject to these methods. As such you can never be sure any of his claims are 100% true.

Not that i don’t think Montauk went on. Just that most likely a lot of the claims made by people may well be false even if they themselves believe them. Duncan Cameron is a good example of how this might be going on. He himself has 100% withdrawn his claims about the ‘montauk boys’, despite his previous claims which were very specific, and after people subsequently came forward to support him.

I know the thread isnt totally about this, but i just wanted to say such a statement could well be possible.

I have PM’d Raz a couple of times, obviously i wouldn’t disclose a PM on the forum. I did find her to have a skeptical attitude, but in an openminded way - which is by no means a bad thing. I didn’t know she/he had visited Camp Hero. Which does interest me somewhat. Overall i have found her/him (whatever he/she is) to be rather easy-going and positive over PM/Email.

Kind Regards,
OllyB.

There are big active cables reportedly pumping power to the underground at Camp Hero.

What is not understood here, is that potentially the Montauk Experiment was actually the only way to get to the future, in order to observe what might have happened?

There is no good or bad to this, however the Montauk Experiment was just done.

There are reports that our timeline divergence has slipped 73%.

So this would make the Montauk Experiment, not an important issue, due to the divergence alone.

So whether Razimus trys to debunk this issue or not, should not matter now?

Post insert:Please note, in Razimuses posted survey, she ask, where the authors either brain damaged or one drugs.

Im sorry, that might and Im saying that might be a touchy issue, if the authors found out that Razimus had been posting this character of thought about them, when it was her that had called them and befriended them to begin with?

The Power Cables going Below ground:I do not know what these purported cables full of electrical power are being used for.

For all that’s known, they may have a huge subterranean Ferris wheel, which amuses the conscripts from their said past experiments?

creedo299, I’ve never had a page/site on the net which included this info or anything similar to it:

I don’t know where you got that info but I do know where you didn’t get it. You didn’t get it from any of my sites/pages on the net, because I’ve never posted anything relating to that.

Back up what you say, post the URL of this supposed site. If the URL was taken down I don’t care the waybackmachine could probably see what it was. What’s the URL?

I always follow a rule, if a source isn’t cited, consider the info heresay until the source is revealed.

Concerning batman!!! , I was referencing the old batman starring Adam West. Whenever Batman would corner the penquin or the joker or the riddler or the mad hatter, the bad guy would usually have some trap set up, and a frequent comment by the bad guy was “Answer me that batman!” Corner me all ya want, but I have a few Aces up my sleeve.
Note to self: While talking to younger people don’t make references to old tv shows and movies they’ve never seen.

I’ve heard about the cables being active, speculation on how much power is going through those cables varies. The cables could be used for the guard building, for the guard who’s job it is to keep pesky kids from going onto the base. Why would the gov’t want kids or anyone from snooping around an old abandoned base? I will answer that question in a detailed article on my website soon.
Although perhaps certain underground facilities may need power to support the ability for the 1983 time-travellers to get here. Speculation is rampant on the net, please don’t assume speculation is factual because most of the time it isn’t. The cables could also be connected with the FAA building, nearby, which is fully functional. Speaking of fully functional.

My website: razimus.com will be up and fully functional within a week.

--------------- Razimus

http://www.valentinesdesigns.com/wwwboard/

1.Message Board
Re: THERE’S STILL WEIRD STUFF GOING ON AT CAMP HERO - does this mean if I use my Hmmmmm … travel forums out there? - Razimus 18:07:38 05/03/04 …www.valentinesdesigns.com/wwwboard - 534k - Cached - More pages from this site

Thumb nail gallery http://www.valentinesdesigns.com/themontaukproject/gallery.htm

Camp Hero Map http://www.valentinesdesigns.com/themontaukproject/areamap.htm

Montauck timeline http://www.valentinesdesigns.com/themontaukproject/timeline.htm

Dish rotation http://www.valentinesdesigns.com/themontaukproject/rotation.htm

Razimus’ In the nicest way that I can tell you, from what they say, there was terrible torture at that place.

There is a reason as to why the said Montauk conscripts, could only be used to access the 50,000s.

This is a technical problem, having to do with the right of time travel.

Please note, by Anomalies.net say, the timeline has diverged 73 percent.

This is a whopping big huge divergence, or offsetting of our timeline.

If this is the case, with resturant signs self materizing as said at Anomalies, by TT experts there, then Montauk has lost its value.

If there were children tortured in order to select the right conscripts to make it to the 50,000s, then this is for the higher powers and the past tortures to work out.

The only post by Razimus that I could find at that site you listed Creedo.

Hello, are there any other good time-travel forums out there? - Razimus 18:07:38 05/03/04 (8)

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creedo, the only reason I reply to your accusations at this point is out of pure humor, I think it’s funny that you pull this nonsense out of nowhere. On that message board I said, “Hello, are there any other good time-travel forums out there?” That in no way relates to anything you claim I said. That montauk page by the way is Valentine’s. Valentine is a different person from me, but a nice guy who linked my page to his, he’s also an old timer from the montaukproject.com forum.

Those pics he posted are obviously at his website and not mine.

Time Travel experts at Anomalies.net say this?, well it must be true then! I do love internet Blogs, they are cool to read, and drudgereport.com for example is a pretty reliable one, but there are countless others that aren’t.

Razimus’ My first search query I think was razimus and razimus.com.

I’m pretty sure, in my first two I came upon with Razimus camp hero?

After this,.I entered in razimus camp hero and still got the same.

In the search link from Yahoo, http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=camp+hero&ei=UTF-8&fr=FP-tab-web-t&cop=mss&tab= camp hero, by valentine, is not even listed with the first fifteen pages.

If you enter in razimus camp hero, you get this valentine’s publication right away.

I don’t know the why of this?

This is what I had found on Montauk alone, on yahoo.

http://www.worldofthestrange.com/docv226.html

Other Corroborative Information

Michelle Guerin, who has uncovered within herself buried memories of some very traumatic and significant events at Camp Hero and nearby Ditch Plains, has provided the following information on a number of points concerning the Montauk Project and related issues (Michelle has a web site detailing some of her Montauk experiences at-- http://members.aol.com/nymush/ sands.html).

"Preston Nichols states in his books that he worked for “BJM” (note: “BJM”=“AIL”), a well known defense contractor on Long Island. While a pseudonym has been used for the company in order to protect himself from possible lawsuits, I have a friend that did indeed work with Preston at a well know defense contractor on Long Island.

"I have an uncle that is very familiar with the area around Montauk, as he spent most of his summers there, from childhood through adulthood. Up until 3 years ago, he owned a home in Montauk. My uncle has some very unusual memories concerning something that happened at the camp when he was younger. At the time, his family summered at a campsite near Camp Hero. Due to an impending hurricane, the residents of the campsite were evacuated to the base. All of the children were housed in a separate building, on the second floor. During the night, he woke up and recalled seeing a face at the window, and was mesmerized by the eyes. He’s never forgotten this. Remember, he was on the second floor! He only related this story to me after I told him of my own experiences at Montauk.

"My cousin (his daughter) then told me of her memories of Montauk. Every summer when they arrived there, for about a two week period, she would experience an unusual “sensation”… she would feel depressed, uneasy and lethargic for no apparent reason. Then she said it was as if she would get used to the sensation, and it no longer bothered her. She had never mentioned this to her family until I started to ask about Montauk.

“I myself have been to Montauk and can attest to the strange “vibes” there. My psychic antennae seems to be most affected in an area near the location of the Sage radar dish, along a stretch of an isolated road known as Old Montauk Hwy. We had been able to verify (through the use of an EMF detector), anomalous EM readings in that location.” --_ Michelle Guerin

I got a very noteworthy email from a woman in the New York area regarding the fateful day of August 12, 1983, when the major phase of the Montauk Project “crashed and burned”. Judith wrote to me as follows.

“I live in the tri-state area so your article interested me. I did some research at the New York Public Library a couple of months ago on the Philadelphia Experiment–supposedly the ship which disappeared-reappeared in Montauk August 1983–I was living in Manhattan at the time and I clearly remember a late night news broadcast about this ship reappearing and the reporter saying the base was totally closed, nobody could get in to check it out. But, I could not find anything in the local newspapers about it from 1983. What I DID find was that the entire midtown area in Manhattan lost ALL electrical power at about the time the ship was supposed to have shown up. The subways were virtually stopped. The outage was so severe as to have crippled midtown for an entire three-four days before it could be restored. I seem to remember this too back in 1983. There is no mention in the papers about WHY this occurred.” --Judith

Several other individuals from the New York/Long Island area with whom I have spoken also recall seeing a spot on local news about the military vessel which appeared mysteriously off Montauk Point for at least a few days that August.

The following, written by Stephanie Chesler, was posted by Ellie Crystal on her web site.

“I read with great interest your material about Montauk in the Universal Updates. I grew up in a small town called Port Jefferson on Long Island’s north shore, about half way to Montauk from the city. My father worked with a division of Grumman Aerospace on top secret projects that involved the Navy, and I remember our neighbors often told my mother that the FBI had come around the neighborhood to “check” out my father’s activities in the community. I remember him speaking about rumors of an underground base at Montauk.”

"My neighbor across the street was a scientist of some sort that worked with government. He never revealed to me exactly what he did, but he had some very complicated electronic apparatus in his garage that I was fascinated with. I babysat his children twice a week, and I would always take a peek in the garage after I had put them to bed. When I questioned him about the purpose of the instruments, he blew me off with a wrong answer. I knew enough that he was lying, as I was keenly interested in science at that time, having won first place in the High School Suffolk County Science Fair two years in a row.

Also link http://www.think-aboutit.com/Misc/montauk_experiment_part_2.htm

Montauk Experiment Part 2

Montauk Air Force Station–Active or Not?

(c) 1997
John A. Quinn
email: J9Aq9 at aol dot com
I’ve conducted a two year investigation into allegations made by scientist Alfred Bielek, Preston Nichols & Peter Moon (authors of the Montauk Project book series) and other people regarding ultra-top-secret experiments carried out by clandestine units of government intelligence and military agencies, corporations such as A.I.L., Siemens/ITT, as well as certain divisions of Brookhaven Labs and other groups from the 1950s up to present times. These activities are by all indications currently ongoing at a fully verified and documented subterranean facility beneath the purportedly abandoned and derelict Montauk Air Force Station. The radar station is at the extreme eastern tip of Long Island, N.Y.'s south fork.
The remnants of the surface military installation are indeed in severe disrepair, but the underground continues to be active. Ludicrously enough, the surface of the land is now a N.Y. State Park … on paper at least. However by terms of the deed, the Federal government still retains all rights to any and all property beneath the surface! Investigations reveal that several new, deeper levels have been added in the early 1990s. Fields of research conducted there are said to include psychotronics (interfacing mind & machine), particle beams, electromagnetic mind control, black-hole simulations and interdimensional/time travel experiments (warping time and space). Very strong evidence indicates particle accelerators are in use there and at nearby facilities – such as Brookhaven Labs – for powering particle beam weapons, HAARP transmissions and exotic particle beam radar systems.

Razimus’ Like I said, if the timeline divergence is over fifty percent, then in a radial way of something to a timing light, that existing timeline, enters into a new timeline.

So whether the Montauk Experiment happened or not, is now relegated to another timeline.

I did not accuse you of anything.

I don’t care, however it seems that you are coming at me?

I think in one of your other says, it was the Ultima web sites, you also said that you were headed towards time travel boards.

I remember seeing that too, did you want me to go search for that one too?

Mikebo’ I never said Hello to the effect, Hello, are there any other good time-travel forums out there? - Razimus 18:07:38 05/03/04 (8)

This was from the web page list alone, not my input, honestly.

I never start sentances with hello.

Sir Authur Connan Doyal did in the Sherlock Holms novels; however I do not.

What you reprinted in heavy, is not my print?

MOP notes, source verification.

Please note to all, that this is the time travel section and not the Montauk section.

For storage space concerns or proper relegation to correct areas, if you want MOP, you may note that part of this thread, is off topic.