VGL navigation system and the C204 gravity network

[Time_travel]

Guys, welcome to the main navigation platform for VGL

There are two levels of VGL operation:

1. On board the device in the form of an on-board computer with gravity sensors.
2. The main brain.

First level. The on-board VGL uses gravity data for a specific event stored in the database. VGL uses sensors to compare the gravitational indicators of the external environment with the gravitational indicators at the moment of the required event to determine the exact point of arrival in space.

Second level. A system for recording, analyzing, and storing the spatial-gravitational parameters of any event, from which the onboard VGL subsequently takes data for comparison.

[QuantumSoundwave]

@Time_travel

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Awww? I wanted to know more But… it’s ok, I understand, I do it too!

~QS

It glitched again, trying again, but my post may look kinda off now.

[QuantumSoundwave]

I have to ask? Have you actually seen our future, or has someone else that traveled *”there &” back… told you what it is?

*I want to dig a bit more, into want you may already know?

Thanks ~QS

Small edit/s *

[JudasTitor]

Are we detecting onboard gravity via optical sensors and a laser emitter?

[Time_travel]

VGL uses two elements:

• Gravity sensors that track the parameters of the gravitational field outside the time machine.

• An on-board computer that contains a “database of spatial event fingerprints.”

This database contains information about events, which looks like this:

*/Event 1 contains - Date and exact time/coordinates in space/gravity values (Database: Item 1 - dT ^ S(xyz) ^ G = Event 1

For Example :

• {Database: Item 1 - dT ^ S(xyz) ^ G = Event 1}
• {Database: Item 2 - dT ^ S(xyz) ^ G = Event 2}
• {Database: Item 3 - dT ^ S(xyz) ^ G = Event 3}

There is a system that collects the spatial imprint of events and stores it in the database. That is, something happened somewhere, and in order to get there at that exact moment, we need to know the exact time of the event along with its position in space and the gravity parameters at the moment of the event.

There are several sensors in the time machine that change the state of gravity outside the installation. The on-board computer knows the parameters of the desired event and the point of arrival in advance and as soon as the sensors record the necessary data, the landing at the desired location is confirmed.

It’s like driving with a navigation system in a car: if the data does not match, the device continues to move in a certain direction or returns back.

[QuantumSoundwave]

Did the C204 actually use a CDV-700 Geiger Counter in it? I read that recently would like to confirm it, or find out they were wrong & what does VGL mean… in case I got it wrong?

[Darby]

@Time_travel

An on-board computer that contains a “database of spatial event fingerprints.”

WRT the Viggle-Giggle device you do see the circular logic in this statement, correct?

[Darby]

@QuantumSoundwave

Did the C204 actually use a CDV-700 Geiger Counter in it? I read that recently would like to confirm it, or find out they were wrong & what does VGL mean… in case I got it wrong?

You got that correct. The CDV-700 has nothing at all to do with gravity. In fact given Titor’s explanation, it has nothing to do with detecting gamma emissions. Titor “explained” that his diagram shows gamma emissions being directed out of what is an exhaust system that is so powerful that none of the radiation escapes laterally into the pick-em up truck. (He and I had a little discussion about that.)

A CDV-700 Geiger counter would be completely useless in that scenario. The CDV-700 doesn’t detect ionization events in the surrounding environment. Few people realize that. It only detects ionization events that occur inside the gas tube, i.e. the wand (Geiger-Muller tube). Gamma photons hit the wand which knocks electrons loose on the inner surface of the wand which then strike and ionize the inert gas atoms inside the tube by knocking electrons off the atoms. It ends up as a cascading event that is detected. If the CDV-700 is inside the cab of the truck, as it is shown in Titor’s photos, and his Viggle-Giggle gadget vents all of the gamma radiaton out the “tail pipe” and doesn’t let any of it inside the cab then the CDV-700 won’t detect any gamma emissions at all except for background emissions. It’s a meaningless prop., i.e. it’s like the idiot lights on instrument panels seen in bad SciFi films.

Just a side note: These devices were manufactured and widely distributed in the mid 1960s when tens of thousands of families were digging long term survival fallout shelters. The devices were for the fallout shelters. CDV-700 translates to:

Department of Defense, Office of Civil Defense, Victoreen Model 700 Geiger Counter. It detected beta and gamma radiation, was not very accurate in scientific terms but good enough for a fallout shelter. Basically it was a PR tool so the DoD didn’t have to say, “To survive an all out nuclear release by the USSR bend over and grab both ankles with your two hands. Then kiss your ass good-bye.” Even in Titor’s War where the USSR was his ally three billion people were vaporized. And he called that a Win for the Good Guys.

[Darby]

Boomer simply chose poorly by basing his gadget on gravitational “fingerprint” detection. There is no gravitational fingerprint. There are far too many fields that constantly and randomly change the shape and strength of Earth’s gravitational field: the surface is dominated by 3+ mile deep, on average, water. Water has this property that makes it move and change shape, turn to ice, melt, etc. The solid surface sits on top of lava thus it moves. The surface is broken into plates that fracture, subduct, grow through volcanism. The gravitational field is constantly and randomly changing due to atmospheric, hydraulic and geologic forces. The strong and weak nuclear forces live completely within the nucleus of atoms and don’t leak out - undetectable. EM is no use because of electrical storms and solar activity. The planets are constantly moving in orbits. Saturn, Jupiter and Neptune have very important gravitational effects of the Earth. They literally jerk Earth around and even change its shape. Small? Yes. Detectable? Yes.

So what could Boomer have chosen that would fill the bill of a “fingerprint” that only requires a vivid SciFi imagination because even though it stretches physics it doesn’t break it or, as happened in Titor’s Saga, make the science absurd? Neutrinos.

Neutrinos are emitted by nuclear decay events. The rate and flavor of neutrino emission is predictable and uniquely identifiable. Weather, Solar activity, planetary alignment, volcanoes, etc. have zero effect on neutrino emission signatures. If he had chosen neutrinos and stated that nuclear reactor neutrino output does not significantly affect the Neutrino Planetary Fingerprint (NPF) then he would have had a story that would be a whole lot harder to attack as being unphysical. The weakness in using neutrinos? They are extremely hard to detect because neutrinos rarely interact with any other particle, field or force. But that’s where the vivid SciFi imagination has to come in - a plausible explanation of how the future society seemingly and effortlessly manages to detect neutrinos. The upside? That is a very current field of ongoing research…at CERN no less; the CERN Neutrino Platform.

[QuantumSoundwave]

@Time_travel you said you would begin giving evidences, before you leave.

I want personally thank you… for keeping your word.

I hope all goes most propitiously in your endeavours. ~QS

[QuantumSoundwave]

@Darby

pick-em up truck

P.S. Thank you @Darby , for your reply, all info & answering if the CDV-700 was… just for that which I asked. ~QS

I forget sometimes. I mean to reply to persons specifically. I am very greatful for the “@name” feature & to whomever had it added, to help when I/we missed doing just that.

[Time_travel]

You know too little about space-time, so let’s fix that.

Point 1 - “gravitational imprint” you claim that it does not exist. You are right about one thing: gravity constantly changes under the influence of various factors, but you are wrong about another:

• gravity can have different values over time (minutes, hours, days, weeks, month) that is, at 6 p.m. gravity had one value and at 6:10 p.m. gravity already has a different value, but you do not understand the meaning of the word “imprint”; we are talking about the imprint of an event in the world line, and gravity is only one of its components.

That is, an important event that occurred at 6 p.m. has a specific date and time, position and gravity value, i.e. the onboard computer database will have a record of “event 1" - 6 p.m., position and space and gravity parameter 3 (for example).” Further in the onboard computer database, there is a second record: “Event 2” - 6:05 p.m., position in space and gravity parameter 2.5.

Did gravity change in a couple of minutes? Yes, it did. That’s what we need. For each event and object, the gravitational component will be completely unique. This is precisely what will prevent you from ending up in a concrete wall.

Point two, I repeat. We do not rely solely on gravity parameters; this is useless if that is all you know.

With gravity values but no data on time and spatial position, no one will get anywhere. The device makes a “cast of the event or an imprint of the event.” Every minute, the device records everything that happens around it in a database where the traveler can select the desired point and see the data that was recorded at that exact moment.

Gravity will change in a few seconds, but this fact will allow the traveler to arrive exactly at 6:05:05 a.m. on September 11, 2001 (for example) because at 6:10:10 a.m. , the desired object will already be in a different place and you may end up hitting a wall. VGL knows where the “concrete wall” might be.

[TrapperND]

Well, I don’t know what all this is here for, but it is real. The three pages at the top describe a data packet, or if you program in C++, it’s a structure for the sub fields of a variable. It isn’t the grand plans to a time machine. It’s just a variable a sub system uses that is a component of the time machine.

What is this component? It’s similar to the directional gravity detection system modern space craft use that NASA launches. So, craft like Voyager, Pioneer, etc that use gravitational slingshot effects to swing around a planet need to be able to detect where the planet is. They don’t use cameras to see it. They measure the direction of its gravity well. the systems that do this take multiple gravity measurements store them in a similar format. The people who design these come from different disciplines. This is a team project. there is less than a handful of people on earth who have the combined knowledge needed for this.

what is VGL an acronym for? GL is most certainly “Gravity Lock” as in Phase Locked Loop (PLL).

what’s the V? who knows - Virtual Gravity Lock? Vertical Gravity Lock? There aren’t that many words that begin with V in English, so you could do a search for all physics and quantum mechanical words that begin with V to find it.

How about Velocity Gravity Lock?

Since gravity and motion are interconnected.

If VGL is creating a co-ordinate map of potential gravity points, then it’s a virtual map of gravity.

If VGL is also mapping the depth of a gravity well, then it’s plotting a verticle attribute - the strength of a gravity well

[QuantumSoundwave]

@TrapperND

what is VGL an acronym for? GL is most certainly “Gravity Lock” as in Phase Locked Loop (PLL).

V = Variable, I thought?

G = Gravity, we agree.

L = Lock, I had no clue?

It will be most interesting to find out what “VGL” actually is.

I feel like between both our interpatetions, I really should have known this.

Like this would/will be the correct interpretation, but I can’t remember why?

I’m don’t mind being wrong, lol, as long as no one gets hurt, it’s just part of the process of learning! ~QS

[TrapperND]

There are two ways you can modulate waves: by amplitude or by frequency.

when you measure changes in gravity, then you are measuring a wave in the gravity (by definition, a wave is deltas over time)

so, all waves travel in some kind of field.

as gravity is the curvature of space over time, spacetime is the gravity field.

so titor, in effect is measuring spacetime curvature

Einstein’s relativity links motion to gravity. as speed increases, so does the mass of the moving object, and therefore it’s gravity.

therefore, to get any meaningful measurement of gravity, you also have to measure velocity - because it changes the curvature.

now, consider the difference between AM and FM radio.

If gravity waves behave like AM radio, then the wave looses information as it fluctates in amplitude. you can clip or flatten the profile.

if gravity waves behave like FM radio, then information is not lost as the wave fluctuates in amplitude.

that’s why music sounds better, crisper, and cleaner on FM than it does on AM.

FM radios work be comparing differences in frequency over a baseline frequency. the baseline is the average of the shifting frequencies. a special circuit, called a phase locked loop in the FM radio dies this averaging all the time, and it extracts the deltas from the baseline frequency to reproduce the signal. This circuit is often implemented on its own IC chip. the chip is called a phase locked loop (PLL).

VGL sounds like a gravity version of this

[QuantumSoundwave]

Thank you, this explaination is actually great! Thank you for posting!

I would willingly bet if people here joined minds together, each persons knowledge & expertise, building skillz & determination & then just worked as a team, like a good tight~knit family, the strides that could be made in the sciences! What a world that could be made!

[Time_travel]

I’m posting this here so that some people like Darby will wake up. You can’t sleep your whole life away.

VGL ENGINEERING SPEC
(Distributed spacetime-event mapping system)

[Time_travel]

Yes, you are correct. The contents of these files relate to programming. They describe part of the principle of transferring the world line into a software environment for building navigation and routes between events in history. Historical chronology and cause-and-effect relationships are observed. Without this system, travel would be impossible.

I would call it a virtual map of world lines. It’s like “Google navigation” for time travel, only on the screen instead of buildings — points of events with different parameters.

[TrapperND]

So, what is the photograph of the hand I am looking at? (not the redacted document pages)

[TrapperND]

my guess is the Geiger counter isn’t part of the time machine - especially since it requires 4 D cell batteries. I can’t imagine wanting to get into a time machine if that is the power source. And, what do you do if you arrive at an era when they don’t make dry cell batteries anymore?

CD V-700

If this machine has two black holes inside of it, I imagine you would want to do periodic checks for radiation leaks.

Otherwise, you may get this and die:

Philadelphia chromosome