Titor, who stands to gain?
If the tale of John Titor is an operative and all made up, then who would stand to gain?
Would it be a hidden government, aliens, one two three or more board members here, good species of offworld aliens?
Or is the tale of John Titor, a carefully woven tale in order to expunge the guilty conscious, or those who know something might be coming, anyway?
Have your say.What do you think the tale of John Titor is trying to do or say, or to cover-up?
The idea of it being a cover up doesn’t seem too far fetched to me.
Thanks Creedo, for posting
I have something to say on this.
If he was a hoax, then my suspect would be a Democrat. Because JT accuses the Republicans and at one point he said,
“The “enemy” that was attacked by Russia in the U.S. was the forces of the government you live under right now.”
It could be an attempt to do something with the 2004 elections.
Disclaimer: this is one of the possibilities of who John Titor might be, if he was a Hoax. So if u r a Democrat, dont get Cocky.
I don’t expose political theories in time travel.
There are some here that do.
At this time, it could be said that the republicans are full of gay criminals? This idea seems to be the latest trough of swill, knocked over by the news agencies, on a gay male escort, who supposedly was employed by the reps.?
Secondly the democrats, seems to have either decentralized support, or strange murders, such as a guy committing suicide, by using the wrong hand to hold the pistol in, wearing a new suet, with no blood splatter, nor blood pool beneath his head found in Battery Park?
The independents, such as Ralph Nader, do not seem to know, understand how politics work and would outsource all authority to good companies, who treat us all fairly, what-ever that means?
Oh’ we’re all in goods hands here.Maybe this is why the Japanese don’t want the U.S. within their internal businesses, because of the corruption factor, ya’ know?
Lots of people out there making money off the “unknown” selling cd’s, newsletters etc. They would gain the most I think.
what u said made me feel sad… 
i wish i could move now, but no one in my family suspects [censored] really, at least not real bad stuff.
N’mkay.. Last nights Art Bell was pretty weird… It’s like they read this board.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2005/02/24.html
It’s about the Philadelphia experiment & Montauk. They interviewed someone who claims to have time traveled during these experiments. They even asked him if he had ever heard of John Titor. AND, they had Michiu Kaku on for the first hour. He said a lot of cool things about time travel and how it was very possible and even that he had blue prints for a time machine posted on his site. He wasn’t negative at all like when he went on screen savers 
He spoke about the “multiverse” and said the number of universes could extend into to the googleplexes.
He did sort of imply we wouldn’t be able to achieve time travel for many years though because of the Type 1,2,3 civilization rules… But I don’t like those “Types” hes using. What’s to say we don’t discover a way to use less energy in a given application, or accidentally discover a way to harness that much energy in a shorter time frame. Hey didn’t the Z-Machine technology show up shortly after Roswell? They also talked about the ABC special on UFO’s where Art Bell had a 3 minute segment, the special also made the claim that Roswell was a hoax.
It was probably my favourite c2c show ever, since the JT shows. If JT didn’t come from them then I’m worried he’s real.
Now on the newbie_0 show I queue a song by a Canadian artist who could be from a future where yellowstone blows up:
Artist: Tragically Hip
Song: Save The Planet
As with most stuff like ufo’s, paranormal etc, it’s usually the people peddling this stuff that gain, the rest of the saps out there lap it up. If it’s the only way for the ripp-offs to make a living then good for them, just don’t be saps and buy into this stuff.
As for the titor stuff, I feel that the group behind it were just perpertrating a hoax, pure and simple, they ‘may’ have seemed to have got stuff right in the predictions, but not really, now if someone said they were a time traveller and posted pictures of their future world, computers etc, then maybe I’d believe them, but only a little. So far on this board not one person claiming to be a tt has proven beyond doubt to be so, they have all proven to be frauds, sure some really do believe they come from the future or whatever, but they are surely slightly unhinged, and would be best helped in a mental institution.
Titor would have been from a “red” state, in my opinion. Red is more closely associated with “country” versus Democrat and “city”. JT was also against big government and for state’s rights, again more a “red” state view of politics.
He also said that the president elected in '04 would be like Lincoln and try to hold the country together, a sympathetic view towards BUSH and the preseident in '08 was only interested “in his/her own power”, a negative reference to a Democratic president?
My take anyway. For some reason I seem to have a different view of JT’s writing than most.
I’d be interested in hearing your opinion of my opinion.
No, I get what your saying. Titor made plenty of statements that had political intention, just like you pointed out. I always saw Titor as more of a “militia-type”, you know, a guy that fantasies about fighting the corruptions of the government with shotguns and hunter’s camoflauge. They have them where I live in Michigan - appropriately called the “Michigan Militia”. Some of these guys are pretty nuts, which is probably what attracts them to the militia. They usually live in the country, they have camps and cabins in the woods. Titor makes statements that are anti-urban. If he IS a hoax, the guy is most certainly a militia-type (or at least has fantasies).
“Titor would have been from a “red” state, in my opinion. Red is more closely associated with “country” versus Democrat and “city”. JT was also against big government and for state’s rights, again more a “red” state view of politics.”
I’m not able to grasp ur point clearly. I mean what u r trying to say is that if JT was from a Red State, then he is a Republican?
I’ll make my point clear. There r two Scenarios:
JT was a hoax:
The person created this plot certainly deserves Credit. I mean this plot was not directly created by a Democrat, but funded it. An average person is not gonna waste his time in designing this plot which is very difficult and required a lot of “Brain Labor”. Certainly there has to be some reason. The reason could be Politics- the 2004 elections. About the next Presidents, well he was just foolin around, since he really never knew who they were.
JT is Real:
JT knows the future President- BUSH in 2004. The President in 2008 interested in keeping his/her Power base- It is BUSH himself. I don’t think there is gonna be an election or a fair election in the midst of a civil War. The President in 2012- BUSH attacked by Russia.
Herc,
I am saying that my interpretation of JT’s writings is that he leans toward the political views of a republican, or “red” state.
Re: Your two scenarios. Real or fake. I’m pretty much in agreement with that. 
Re: your comment “I don’t think there is gonna be an election or a fair election in the midst of a civil War.”
Didn’t the USA already have a civil war and elections were held? And GWBush would be ineligible for a third term. And Russia attackes the USA in 2015, at least according to JT.
“Didn’t the USA already have a civil war and elections were held?”
Yes but I think the reason for that Civil War is different from the war Titor described- A war in which the government manhandles ALL the Civilians.
“And GWBush would be ineligible for a third term”
Very correct! That could be the reason why Titor said:
The President in 2008 was only interested in KEEPING his/her Power base
His/her eh? Hillary in 2008! I want Bill Clinton to be the First Lady. lol
And Russia attackes the USA in 2015, at least according to JT.
In 2015, Yes! I knew that. What I meant was, Bush began his 4th term in 2012 and he was attacked by Russians in 2015. Titor even gave a date and a place: Washington DC at 3:45 AM on March 12, 2015.
Herc wrote:
“…A war in which the government manhandles ALL the Civilians”
What do you think starts it? And leads to the collapse of western stability in 2005?
“…but political situations are dependant on Western stability, which collapses in 2005.” JT
If Titor was real and a disaster does happen in a few weeks and a situation happens where people “willfully eat poisoned food” as he said, I dont think anyone is gonna worry about Titor after that.
While you sit by and watch your Constitution being torn away from you, you willfully eat poisoned food, buy manufactured products no one needs and turn an uncaring eye away from millions of people suffering and dying all around you. Is this the “Universal Law” you subscribe to?- JT
Thank goodness none of this sounds most like now!
If you see my other posts, it was a plot from the present to try to convince the past to change it to prevent President Obama from being elected. That’s why they selected 2008 and 2015 as crisis points, falsely claiming that America would collapse.
I was there, technically I am John Titor, based off the fake story. I was the younger self and they were monitoring me here in the present and trying to send disinformation back.
It was all very stupid and very evil and is ongoing.
I am working on a new hypothesis for time travel that involves only one universe and it agrees with Novikov self consistency. We can hypothesize that time is a wave that flows in both directions, into the past for anti or negative time – and into the future for positive time. When these two wave forms constructively interfere with 100% in phase, and a thermodynamic arrow gives the perception of depth, which generates what we perceive as space. It entails that our universe is holographic.
If someone tries to go back and kill their grandfather it cannot happen because it would create an interference pattern that is 180 degrees out of phase. According to this hypothetical idea, traveling back in time fulfills history and any attempt to change the past is extremely limited.