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Illuminatus

The declaration of independence was written and signed by a majority of masons. I forget the exact number, but something like 45 of the 48 people were masons.

this seems to be the most common guess of how many.

Signers of The Declaration of Independance:

Known Masons (8): Benjamin Franklin, John Hancock, Joseph Hewes, William Hooper, Robert Treat Payne, Richard Stockton, George Walton, William Whipple

Evidence of Membership And/or Affiliations (7): Elbridge Gerry, Lyman Hall, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Nelson Jr., John Penn, George Read, Roger Sherman

Summary: 15 of 56 Signers were Freemasons or probable Freemasons.
 
...eveerybody knows that but how about the simbology on the american dollar bill. is that real or is it just a crock.
What the heck does america have to do with the pyramids anyway?
Novus Ordo Seclorum
Annuit Coeptus

Both Kerry and Bush admitted to skull and bones(monopolistic - "not evil; but crafty"), Even admitting they cant say anyhting about it.?
Now we know behind those doors they arent slapping each other with paddle sticks and playing nintendo games no one else has ever heard of... or do they?
 
Yes but then how do you think that would affect the government as we know it? If you think about it we have been governed by these people that are from these secret organizations. Why do they keep it secret as though they have something to hide. what are they trying to fulfill that they havent yet? Is it fair that we are governed by both secrets and lies? And is that what keeps certain people from running for the presidency or higher office? If they are not part of these secret organizations then they have less of a chance?
 
A couple of the more senior proffessors in my department have visited secret research facilities, aparently, but have said they were not doing anything really deserving of being secret.
In 2000, one of the most respected proffessors upped and left overnight, his wife too.
No one knew where they went, the Police were involved and everything. So about now you say they were abducted, kidnapped by whoever and so forth. They did leave a note saying that he was 'just going to work towards something worthwhile'. Another 'top secret visit' later and the word was he was in there, working away. Last year he came back to visit some friends, gather some data and such. Bizarre.

Personally, I think there are secret societies, but I doubt they do anything more than play limited edition computer games, drink expensive booze, and so on with other ridiculous, waste-of-time-and-money-rich-people-shenanigans. That is not to say they are not trying to run the world. I think they will find the whole 'controlling the world thing' a bit difficult to do in secret and probably not worth the effort when anyone can upset the 'balance'.

Good Scientist
 
What the heck does america have to do with the pyramids anyway?

Our country has been in almost every way been altered by the freemasons (if you are a freemason please don't kill me for talking about your lovely lovely society, by the way, are you losing weight?) but anyway their organization is HIGHLY based off from Egyptian society and many believe religion too. That's where the pyramids come from.
 
Personally, I think there are secret societies, but I doubt they do anything more than play limited edition computer games, drink expensive booze, and so on with other ridiculous, waste-of-time-and-money-rich-people-shenanigans. That is not to say they are not trying to run the world. I think they will find the whole 'controlling the world thing' a bit difficult to do in secret and probably not worth the effort when anyone can upset the 'balance'.

It isnt that far off as a possibility. In the retail business, a smaller version of a take-over occurs under any Store Manager. Once a new Store Manager is in place, he pulls over people that are a part of his 'society', and together they run the store. The old crew is slowly gotten rid of or removed from positions of authority. So, in essence, the Store Manager ends up "owning" that particular store.


As far as running any country, it wouldnt be that difficult. By having people in key positions...CIA, FBI, DEA, ATF, The Treasury Department, and some of the others, the ideals of any society to which they all belong could promote any agendas they harbor.

As I remember, Hitler did a similar take-over of the German Government. By taking specific steps, he got the majority,as slim as it was, it was enough to achieve his goals. And then once installed as the head man, he filled the other posts with his "team".

"""Germany's new ruler was a master of Machiavellian politics. Hitler feared plots, and firmly believed in his mission to achieve the supremacy of the so-called Aryan race, which he termed the master race.? Having legally come to power, he used brutality and subversion to carry out a creeping coup to transform the state into his dictatorship. He blamed the Communists for a fire in the Reichstag on Feb. 27, and by fanning anti-Communist hysteria the Nazis and Nationalists won a bare majority of Reichstag seats in the elections of Mar. 5. After the Communists had been barred, and amid a display of storm trooper strength, the Reichstag voted to give Hitler dictatorial powers.

From the first days of Hitler's Third Reich (for its history, see Germany ; National Socialism ; World War II ) political opponents such as von Schleicher and Gregor Strasser (who had resigned from the Nazis) were murdered or incarcerated, and some Nazis, among them Ernst Roehm , were themselves purged. Jews, Socialists, Communists, and others were hounded, arrested, or assassinated. Government, law, and education became appendages of National Socialism. After Hindenburg's death in 1934 the chancellorship and presidency were united in the person of the new leader. Heil Hitler! became the obligatory form of greeting.

In 1938, amid carefully nurtured scandal, Hitler dismissed top army commanders and divided their power between himself and faithful subordinates such as Wilhelm Keitel . As Hitler prepared for war he replaced professional diplomats with Nazis such as Joachim von Ribbentrop . Many former doubters had been converted by Hitler's bold diplomatic coups, beginning with German rearmament. Hitler bullied smaller nations into making territorial concessions and played on the desire for peace and the fear of Communism among the larger European states to achieve his expansionist goals."""

Seems somewhat familiar doesnt it?
 
The term Illuminati is thrown around much too freely in this modern age.
It has as much to do with anything relevant to your life as probably watching a play by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart.
Or some story about an evil Queen from the medieval times.
(restaurant & tournament?
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I actually went there back in 2000 or so. (Toronto) My knight won ... ^^
I just remember getting really drunk and going around saying in a half broken english accent...
"off with ye head, I say !"...
I believe someone said to me; "Lord Sir Osis?"
..."Lord Cirrhosis of liver pool?"

lol he'd had a few that night too... :D
 
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