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Multi-Dimensional Awareness & Existence

Persephone

Timekeeper
Does anyone think we are capable of living our lives, being aware of multiple dimensions via Hawkins etal.?

And if so, what would that imply?

Have PAST HUMANS been more aware? Less aware? Differently aware?

The appropriateness of chance is astounding.
Perspehone
 
Re: Multi-Dimensional Aware

Note via the treaste you have provided by Hawlking.

This is in by our standards yet to be proved, Bartsuiack said something to this effect in 85, however the apparatus to Hawlking, is yet to be awarded.
 
Friend Persephone

Yes I do believe that it is perfectly possible. The thing is that in order to become conscious enough to discern between the veil of one reality and the next the individual must undergo a strict training and inccur in many hours of exercise. Of course I have found individuals during my observancies that are peering through the veil without any training, this I ponder is the result of evolution more than a simple accident.
But then again this is completely understandable, at least in a couple hundred EarthTR´s the people, it´s inhabitants will develope this kind of awareness.
The many worlds that await you Persephone, it is...wonderful.

Until later becomes now.
 
Trans001, you said:
<<The thing is that in order to become conscious enough to discern between the veil of one reality and the next the individual must undergo a strict training and inccur in many hours of exercise. Of course I have found individuals during my observancies that are peering through the veil without any training, this I ponder is the result of evolution more than a simple accident.>>

The TTA agree's with your analysis, the pain and torture of the soul is unlike any exercise to accelerate development/evolution of enlightenment and consciousness verses pacifistic meditation.

For one must actually be the effect to be over it.

Is this what you mean?

Imagine what results a society would get by adding Time Travel to the equation, how can we not achieve this state effortlessly?

How easy to manipulate events and situations to deliver just the right conditions for this change to occur.

Life is normally unfair, and disappointing. However, how can one discern from the actuality if this unfairness is by a manipulated temporal nature or random chance?

I ask you to consider and question the events that bring you to these crucial moments that make them selves stand out in your lives. Who else knows this but you, those who see visions obviously are being communicated to them by an out side force, other then you who knows of the desired results.

Just remember that when you accept them, they were there to assist in your failure when all your attempts failed.

Always read between the lines, especially in consciousness. It can be exploited and lead you to an inevitable situation if you don't step outside of it. (unfortunately, this too will also be exploited).

-TTA
 
Friend TTA

I do understand what your are clearly implying, I also understand that life as it is can be pretty unconvincing, but my dear friend we must try. I do know of the many effects of manipulation, it has happened to my people over the course of several generations, yet we are here, trying to do our duty despite the hinderances planted by the opposition.

Yes, humanity is at a crucial stage, many factions from all over the multiverse are trying to exploit us, but do you know why? We are a wonderful race, with such a potential for growth and developement that the others fear it. That is precisely why they all want to get a hold of our destiny. That is why we observe, not to manipulate but to be able to warned the unwary.

We are quite aware of uncountable attempts of the others to introduce change into our past, present and future. But if it were not for the visions that many receive how do you think it possible for us to be warned of the impending evil and doom coming our way.

It is with this visions, sometimes unsettling, sometimes soothing, that the people of this world are warned of possible changes being introduced. It can not be risked to make a banner and post it in the middle of the street, that would be too public, it has got to be so subtle that you get a chance to think about it and not act out on it as an order but out of your sheer will. The human race is being warned but that is about it, it can not be compelled by anyone to do what they have got to do, at least our free will is being honored.

However sometimes it does not matter how many warnings the human race receives, they simply ignore it and then it is when it becomes the most painful, for we know of the possible outcome of their ignorance and know that it will not be pretty, and still we have got to be here to lend a helping hand when calamity occurs even though we tried to warned them. And then the most ironic takes place, they call for help, they weep and cry and ask why were not they warned and all we can do is take a deep breath and keep observing.

So far I have been witnessed to scores of changes of this sort and only once or twice have people decided to act out on the warnings, and even then they have been stopped by the general public, dismissed as the raving shouts of madmen. So you see I, like you, fear the changes of time travel, but it has already happened TTA, there are time travelling agents manipulating our past this very moment, all we have got to do is be receptive, sensible and watch for the signals, for we are being warned all the "time".

Until later becomes now.
 
Of course I have found individuals during my observancies that are peering through the veil without any training, this I ponder is the result of evolution more than a simple accident.

I would submit that there are no "accidents" in the developement of humankind on this Earth. We are not the result of some unexplainable cosmic "happening" to start with, and our progress, or lack of it, is not unguided either.
I would futher suggest that there are many Earth Humanoids that are born with gifts, or powers, or abilities, what ever we would define them as, that enable them to do many strange &unsual things outside the realm of what is considered "normal" by most, which would then be reclassified as paranormal and / or supernatural. Most of these, I would suppose, are never even by any means made aware of their "gifts" and never learn to use them. There are, however, those about us in various factions who have for countless years carefully tracked the transmission of these with what some call the "holo" genes, which trasnmit the special powers and abilities, and would try to manipulate those gifted for less than legitimate purpose.
 
Are humans growing temporal organs

Friend Zxavier of TR125.0121

I would submit that there are no "accidents" in the developement of humankind on this Earth. We are not the result of some unexplainable cosmic "happening" to start with, and our progress, or lack of it, is not unguided either.

I absolutely agree with this position, Earthlings, terrans, homo sapiens, humans, Orrans, however you will like it to denominate them, mankind Is a wonderful race. Utterly guided by caring, loving and pretty unseen hands. But as I was pointing out THOSE guiding hands are merely pointing out the way to follow, but in no way are THIS hands commanding us to do anything. On the other hand there those who oppose this intervention and take advantage of every opportunity to commandeer the lives of hapless mortals. We have got to be on the look out, that is why we observe.

I would futher suggest that there are many Earth Humanoids that are born with gifts, or powers, or abilities, what ever we would define them as, that enable them to do many strange &unsual things outside the realm of what is considered "normal" by most, which would then be reclassified as paranormal and / or supernatural.

These are probably the onew that I have encountered during my observations. Most of them are women, why is this I am still not certain but may have to do with their more sensible/structured mind. However when I try to communicate they seem tom lack the ability to parlay. Sometimes I even get the impression that this people who are roaming the stream are doing so in a state of stupor, making them not too conscious of their surrounding.

I simply hope that if mankind is evolving some sort of time phasing organ, the do so for the benefit of lifekind.

Until later becomes now.
 
Trans001, you said,
<<I do know of the many effects of manipulation, it has happened to my people over the course of several generations, yet we are here, trying to do our duty despite the hinderances planted by the opposition.>>

I did not indicate not do so other wise, but thanks for clearifying that point anyways.

<<Yes, humanity is at a crucial stage, many factions from all over the multiverse are trying to exploit us, but do you know why? We are a wonderful race, with such a potential for growth and developement that the others fear it. That is precisely why they all want to get a hold of our destiny. That is why we observe, not to manipulate but to be able to warned the unwary. >>

Now here’s something original and out of the Star Trek universe, if you’re a B’jorian
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Shields up, phasers on kill and the science of destroying wormholes tend to get the job done, and there is no need to go fanatically metaphysical about the situation of factions and their treat on humanities “potential for growth.”

<<We are quite aware of uncountable attempts of the others to introduce change into our past, present and future. But if it were not for the visions that many receive how do you think it possible for us to be warned of the impending evil and doom coming our way. >>

Good rebuttal. However, you’re generalizing that all that receive visions are being warned. They can be told what to do, to capitalize on a situation, not necessarily a warning now is it?

<<It is with this visions, sometimes unsettling, sometimes soothing, that the people of this world are warned of possible changes being introduced. It can not be risked to make a banner and post it in the middle of the street, that would be too public, it has got to be so subtle that you get a chance to think about it and not act out on it as an order but out of your sheer will. The human race is being warned but that is about it, it can not be compelled by anyone to do what they have got to do, at least our free will is being honored.>>

Again, why generalize visions as just warnings, and having to do with a human race as a whole? They can be for individuals, and for selfish reason, not just for the salvation of our “potential for growth.” It would be very beautiful to think that it can be that way and I know you thrive on it being poetic and perfect, but please let’s not be naive and not be critical of the real reasons behind them.

<<However sometimes it does not matter how many warnings the human race receives, they simply ignore it and then it is when it becomes the most painful, for we know of the possible outcome of their ignorance and know that it will not be pretty, and still we have got to be here to lend a helping hand when calamity occurs even though we tried to warned them.>>

Take a breather Mr. Wordsworth /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif that was one big sentence.

You could have summarized it like this, “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink it.”

Simple, and straight to the point.

<<And then the most ironic takes place, they call for help, they weep and cry and ask why were not they warned and all we can do is take a deep breath and keep observing>>

It is up to their desecration, as individuals who have known of the consequences for their actions and are now taking responsibility for it. I think it’s the most beautiful admirable human quality, not as the most distorting of thing to observe take a deep breath and ponder an “I told you so.”

For your actually witnessing growth and understanding, leading to redemption, and I don’t know about you, but I would have deep compassion, and nothing but forgiveness for someone who has willed them selves to this level. If this isn’t any indication of their spirits will to feel, and over come, I don’t know what is.

<<So you see I, like you, fear the changes of time travel, but it has already happened TTA, there are time travelling agents manipulating our past this very moment, all we have got to do is be receptive, sensible and watch for the signals, for we are being warned all the "time">>

Warned? Or falling for their trap? Yes let us be receptive, but critical as well. For the very warnings may be what they are counting on to manipulate us to believe in their cause. However, we really won’t know that, until we step out side of this realm and there’s and see how wrong it can be to control a race, to not allow it to have freedom and set it on it’s own course, and not one that we implant to them to follow. Let them find their own un-exploited by us, untainted by our knowledge. For do we really want to play God? That is the ultimate question we will answer with Time Travel someday if we do not realize what we are, human beings.

-TTA
 
Friend TTA

Honestly speaking, yes I am finally grasping the concept you are trying to express. And do you know something? I think that it is a very valid one. As I said before, we as a race must be united and careful about unwanted incurssions in the deepest part of our cultures. It is now that I understand your position and way of thinking. And somehow I am glad there is people like you monitoring and exposing others, not that I expect a different treatment from you. So keep up at it, besides It might sound crazy, specially being you the one who is always making fun of my comments, but the last days I felt that the TTA was missing and was wondering where could it because it was not around.

Until later becomes now.
 
Thanks... I think /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif.

<<It might sound crazy, specially being you the one who is always making fun of my comments, but the last days I felt that the TTA was missing and was wondering where could it because it was not around.>>

You sound crazy, Nooo /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif... The TTA makes fun of your comments /ttiforum/images/graemlins/tongue.gif? Really? You were wondering where I been? I didn't think you cared
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-TTA
 
Re: Multi-Dimensional Aware

Reply to Creedo,
Ah yes, Stephen Hawking is a dreamer! And oh what a dreamer he is.

Just imagine for a minute, paralysis, in your bed in an uncomfortable position, wanting a drink of water, and needing another human to assist you, and yet in your mind the universe resides, in all its shades and complexities and beautiful enigmas. I honor Hawking. It matters not to me that his ideas are "correct". Who is to say for sure, because that is the nature of our science to dream, hypothesize, imagine beyond our grasp. He is in the midst of a great cloud of magnificent cognition, and can only use our limited fashions of communication to express his wonder to us.

I wait for the ballots.

The appropriateness of chance is astounding.
Persephone
 
TTA said
"for your actually witnessing growth and understanding, leading to redemption, and I don’t know about you, but I would have deep compassion, and nothing but forgiveness for someone who has willed them selves to this level. If this isn’t any indication of their spirits will to feel, and over come, I don’t know what is."

This is simply beautiful.

Persephone
 
Thanks /ttiforum/images/graemlins/smile.gif no metaphsyical effort intended, just straight reality and principle of the situation of one who is truly above and observing.

-TTA
 
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