Time Travel responsible for Joseph Smith's visions


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Time Travel responsible for Joseph Smith\'s visions

Time Travel was responsible for the Joseph Smith encounter in 1820.

I was told about the book Time Storms by Jenny Randles, and was fascinated with her Extraordinary Case Histories of strange and unexplained phenomenon.
At times a “funnel effect” is reported, along with what researchers call the Oz Factor. This is where all ambient sounds just seem to disappear, leaving an eerie stillness and silence, and the flow of time stops inexplicably and leaves a numbing timelessness.

She summarized several distinctive attributes of this unknown phenomenon that include;
a dark cloud or mist that induces silence; a power that stops the muscles moving; a tube of light up into the sky.
She believes that all this is describing a ‘Time Storm’ event.

I believe that such an event is where someone from the future is trying to make contact with someone from the past.
There is a historical description of such an encounter.

Here is Joseph Smith’s account of his first encounter (1);
“It was on the morning of a beautiful, clear day, early in the spring of eighteen hundred and twenty. Having looked around me, and finding myself alone, I kneeled down….I had scarcely done so, when immediately I was seized upon by some power which entirely overcame me, and had such an astonishing influence over me as to bind my tongue so I could not speak. Thick darkness gathered around me, and it seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction….- just at this moment of great alarm, I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me….When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name…..”

Two time travellers from within a ‘Time Storm’ called him by name.

Is there any proof that someone from the future visited him ?
Here is a picture (2) of Joseph Smith holding a plastic compact disk case, being the contents of a box given to him by the messengers.

The 24 'plates' of Mormon refer to the 16 floppy and 8 compact disks that are required to set up and boot a mid 1990s 386 PC computer.

(1) p3, extracted key-words. Truth Restored (6/95), a Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Publication, U.S.A. 1995.
(2) Ibid. page 27 of Chapter 3.
(3) This information extracted from the book “Ancient Chronicles Unsealed” by Ronald Pegg, P.P.H.C., 2003.


A computer system and CD-Roms in plastic cases were sent back to the 1800s.

I think this is a fascinating discovery.
What do you think,
Re: Time Travel responsible for Joseph Smith\'s visions

Interesting theory.

I would point out that a lot of Joe Smith's teachings are very much akin to Freemasonry.

Joe himself was at one point in time, a freemason. Another strange thing about this is that if anyone, anywhere in this world knows how to manipulate time, it is likely that the masons know how, and would likely use it to influence their own past to make themselves more powerful that they already were.

Is this picture a drawing, or a photograph?
Re: Anwer to your question

The two CD-Roms that were in the plastic case were “Ancient Civilizations of the Mediterranean” by SCALA-E.M.M.E. 1995, and “The Bible” by Media Graphics International 1998.

Unfortunately the picture, I believe, is a drawing-
BUT the accounts of what was contained in the “Brass Plate” of Mormon (which is the colour of the ‘Bible’ disk) describe what is contained in that 1998 CD-Rom.

(Here is Pegg’s explanation from his web site’s FAQ page…)
9. Isn't this 1827 picture of Joseph Smith and his witnesses, just showing a glass plate with his fingers showing through, and not a plastic CD container ?

It does look like a glass plate, doesn't it, and historically, photographic glass plates of that size were invented in that century, around the year Joseph Smith took possession of his "religious" articles. Add to this the fact that plastic was not discovered until much later, the notion of it being a plastic compact disk container seems to go against logic.

So we must carefully evaluate all the evidence to enable us to make a conclusion whether this is a picture of a glass (photographic) plate or a plastic compact disk container.

Glass Plate
In 1822 the "Camera", and in 1826 "Photography" were invented by Joseph Niepce. These devices utilized photographic glass "plates" and varied in size, but were approximately six to eight inches square and contained an image on the face of the glass when exposed. So they either had an image on them when they were exposed, or were blank and clear before they were exposed. Other than that, there was no content within the plate itself.

Plastic Container
On page 27 of the Mormon publication (6/95) "Truth Restored" is a picture of the Eight Witnesses and Smith holding the above box, and is partly entitled "and held in their hands the gold plates from which the Book of Mormon was translated".

On the 'Brief Explanation About' page of The Book of Mormon, it is explained that "the teachings of the prophets; the history by Mormon; a commentary by Moroni; and a record of the Jews" were contained in these plates.
(Could a blank glass plate contain all that information ?)

One plate in particular, The Plate of Brass , is said to have contained "the five books of Moses, a record of the Jews, and also the prophecies of the holy prophets". These are referring to the Pentateuch, the Historical Writings (of Kings and Chronicles for example), and the Prophetic books.

Visual evidence from the previous picture gives that either a glass plate or a plastic compact disk container is being held in the person's hand.
Now to take into account what was contained in that plate.

Does a blank, unexposed (or exposed) glass photographic plate (of the mid 1800s) contain "the five books of Moses, the Historical Writings of the Jews, and the prophecies of the holy prophets" ?


This is the Holy Bible CD-Rom. It is a brass colour. A compact disk looks somewhat like a plate.
Compact disks are normally housed in a plastic container. They can contain much information.

Does this Brass Plate contain "the five books of Moses, the Historical Writings of the Jews,
and the prophecies of the holy prophets" ?


From the visual and documented evidence, the glass photographic plate is NOT the answer.