Time travelling


Temporal Novice

No scientist has been able to do that. Now: somebody steps in and says he can. I don't believe this.
<hr size="1" width="80%" color="#000099" align="left">Michele Bugliaro
Don't you remember when I saw you tomorrow & said I would see you yesterday?

Well, Tomorrow is today, and I'm back from yesterday to bring you some answers to those riddling questions you seek.

Be careful for what you wish for!

Innsbruck CTTN Research Team
"Quantum Entanglement Experiment"
From: Jason Shields *(TAP-TEN Research Member Associate)
URL: http://www.learn.at/cttn
The dream of teleportation is to be able to travel by simply
Reappearing at some distant location. It might appear that one could
scan the object and send the information so that the object can be
reconstructed at the destination. Yet, fundamental laws like the
Heisenberg uncertainty relation do not allow one to measure any
object to arbitrary precision. Charles H. Bennett and his co-workers
have suggested that it is possible to transfer even quantum states,
provided one does not get any information about the state. This
becomes possible by utilizing entanglement, one of the essential
features of quantum mechanics.

Here we present the first experimental verification of quantum
teleportation. By producing pairs of entangled photons by the process
of parametric down-conversion and using two-photon interferometry for Analyzing the entanglement, we could transfer a quantum property (in our case the polarization state) from one photon to another.

Quantum teleportation is featured in the April 2000 issue of
Scientific American.

This work is published in:

Dik Bouwmeester, Jian-Wei Pan, Klaus Mattle, Manfred Eibl, Harald
Weinfurter & Anton Zeilinger, Experimental Quantum Teleportation,
Nature vol.390, 11 Dec 1997, pp.575.
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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 10:17:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Shields spiffyboffo@y...
Subject: Broken Link and querry to the experimenters
To: harald.weinfurter@p...


I have been collecting links on teleportation and
quantum physics as well as Relativity and Superstring
Theory and time travel theory from very respectable
sources at http://www.learn.at/cttn and wanted to
inform you that the link from your site at
is broken. The Scientific American April 2000 issue
on teleportation has been moved to
but I have no idea why the article isn't featured.

I was wondering that, since the Innsbruck Experiment
involves instantaneous teleportation, does that mean
that a dual experiment in FTL time travel has also
been achieved? I've talked to Prof. Michio Kaku and
he told me that no information is able to travel FTL
through teleportation, but from what I understand
about the Innsbruck experiment has done is exactly
that. By using the polarizations as a form of FTL
information exchange that happens 20% of the time the
experiment is done. Could you please get back to me
regarding this idea, and to let me know what you think
of my home page and if you'd like to put a link to it?

Thank you,
Jason Shields


Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 08:40:08 +0200
From: Harald Weinfurter
Organization: Sektion Physik, LMU Muenchen
To: Jason Shields spiffyboffo@y...
Subject: Re: Broken Link and querry to the experimenters

hej Jason,

thanks for pointing at the broken link !

concerning FTL: teleportation is only accomplished when the reciever
of the quantum state performs some unitary transformation on the quantum state which depends on the measurement result of the sender. Without the (classical) information from the sender and without the final unitary transformation, the particle at the hands of Bob is as uncorrelated with the original state as it could be. and the classical information can be broadcast only with the speed of light.
in our experiment we did not perform the unitary transformation, but
here the receiver had to wait until he received the message from the sender that for the particular instance the photon is in the correct state
(which happened with 25% prob). in the other 75% of the cases you
would have obtained the wrong result.
so, no FTl.

best regards.
Harald Weinfurter
Sektion Physik
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet Muenchen
Schellingstr. 4/III
D-80799 Muenchen

tel.: +49-89-2180-2044
fax : +49-89-2180-5032

Quantum Entanglement, The Art of Transposing of Matter &energy for

Atom Experiment Brings Teleportation Closer to Reality

LONDON (Sept. 26) - Physicists in Denmark have made two samples of
trillions of atoms interact at a distance in an experiment which may
bring Star Trek-style teleportation and rapid quantum computing
closer to reality.

Eugene Polzik and his colleagues at the University of Aarhus are not
about to beam anyone up to the Starship Enterprise, but their
research reported in the science journal Nature on Wednesday makes
the idea of instantly transporting an object from one place to
another less far fetched.

It involves quantum entanglement -- a mysterious concept of entwining two or more particles without physical contact. Albert Einstein once described it as ''spooky action at a distance.''

Entangled states are needed for quantum computing and teleportation.
Scientists have entangled states of a few atoms in earlier
experiments but Polzik and his team have done it with very large
numbers and using laser light.

''It is the first result where two macroscopic material objects have
been entangled,'' Polzik explained in a telephone interview.

''We have produced entanglement at a distance which means you and me can share entangled objects which is important for quantum
communication, including quantum teleportation.''

In 1998 what has been described as the first teleportation experiment
was done when scientists at the California Institute of Technology
teleported a beam of light across a laboratory bench.

Ignacio Cirac, a physicist at the University of Innsbruck in Austria
said achievement of Polzik and his team could lead to real-life
quantum communication systems, teleportation and quantum computers.

''This is the first time two different atomic samples have been
entangled in this way -- using light -- even though the samples are
separated by some distance,'' he said in a commentary in Nature.

Cirac believes further experiments will follow which
could ''revolutionize the field of quantum information.''

Reuters 14:56 09-26-01

Quantum entanglement: Going large

Particles small enough for their behaviour to be governed by the laws
of quantum mechanics can exhibit a remarkable property known as
entanglement. A pair of quantum particles can exist in
entangled 'superposition', a mixture of states that resolves only
when some physical property such as spin or polarization is measured.
Quantum entanglement is a fundamental requirement for quantum
computing, but until now it has been possible only to generate
entanglement between microscopic particles. Using a new method of
generating entanglement, an entangled state involving two macroscopic objects, each consisting of a caesium gas sample containing about 1012 atoms, has now been created. The entangled spin state can survive for 0.5 milliseconds, a long time in this context, bringing practical applications of quantum memory and quantum teleportation a little closer.

Experimental long-lived entanglement of two macroscopic objects
Nature 413, 400-403 (27 September 2001)

Quantum physics: Entangled atomic samples
Quantum mechanics has potential applications in communication and
computation. But first a quantum connection — known as entanglement — has to be created between bigger and bigger objects.
Nature 413, 375-377 (27 September 2001)

Trillion-atom triumph

27 September 2001 table of contents
Nature © Macmillan Publishers Ltd 2001 Registered No. 785998

And yet another project using these very principles are under way with one of our own TAP-TEN Research Associates...

From: "Thomas George Skeggs" <ThomasG@t...>
Date: Sun Oct 7, 2001 8:01 am
Subject: Star Chamber Accidental Time Travel Test

Star Chamber Accidental Time Travel Test
Carried on the 07-08th September 2001
Note: I have posted this time travel test on the tapten group, first
I have technical with the Angelfire server. This is a edited version of the webpage plan to download to my website in the near future. (When its working). I have also deleted the names of the locations for personal reasons.

This test was actually an accidental test, and the events appear to
be connected with I tourched the antenna of low power UHF
transmitter, carrying a 10-15Hz square wave audio signal. This event
occured about four weeks ago, around the 7-8th September 2001. The
experience gained from this accidental test, appears to be more like
recalling a distance memory or like a flash back. It felt real. It
looked real, it sounded real.

The memories I recall of being in place I have never been to before,
I could see the environment around. I could touch the environment. I
picked a handful up of soil to feel what it was like. I could feel
the wind blowing and I could feel the cold. And I could here sounds,
like faint traffic noise in the distance. It appeared real at the
time. But what puzzled me that these memories of being in XX, occurred the day before the test. I did not pay to much attention to these memories at the time. The next day I carried
a power up test and nothing dramatic

I started experiencing these strange memories on the 7th September
and I ended in XX. And it was a place where its claimed the sun always shines, yet to me it was bloody freezing. There was a cold wind blowing in from the north-west or west. It was blowing in from the sea. But it was sunny with blue skies and high cirrus

The sun was low in the sky so I think it may have been not long after
sun rise. The soil was dry and dusty. And it was a red-dark brown
colour with tiny bits of roots in it. This soil was on top of the
hills. (Yet looking at recent photos of the area the soil appears
yellow sandy colour). There was lots bushes or plants on the
hillside I could not identify. Some were just 12" high but others
looked about 4" tall. And some looked evergreen. (They keep there
leaves all year round) .On top of the XX there was taller bushes and
some trees.

But I did stand behind a large metal sign on two metal poles. The
metal sign was big about 4-5' square with rounded corners and was about 4' off the ground. It was painted white with red and black writing on it. And I think it was somewhere between the XX and the XX. The sign was close to the trackway leading upwards to the top of the hills. And I forgot to read the sign. But I think it had rules or laws on it. I stood behind it to get my head out of the cold wind. I was only
wearing a T-shirt and blue jeans and trainers at the time.

I also saw a large 4-wheel truck on top the hills. I think it had a
roof rack and aerials on it. I think there was two or three people
wearing short sleeve shirts. I couldn't see the colour of the truck
or the colour of their cloths. As the sun was behind them and I could
only make out silhouettes. I think they were looking at a map on the
bonnet on the truck. And one kept pointing at different places. I
think they were park rangers or something like that.

I had a look across the city from my position and it was real
disappointing view. It was misty or dirty looking.
I could not see buildings in distance clearly due to the misty or

I also remember being near the XX. I walked down a footpath, west of
the XX, and around the south side.
I think I actually walked all the way around the XX. Its difficult to
recall the memories of the XX.
But it was warmer than being up in the hills. I walked across a open
space like a car park, I think it was
concrete. It was grey-yellow colour. I think I recall a door way.
With a solid looking wooden door with square panels on it. It was a
dark hard wood.

At this location I looked across the city and one odd thing was it
was sunny, but the cars in town had their lights on. I could see them
travelling in straight lines. I could see tall buildings in the
distance but I could see them clearly it was misty. At the first
location I did not see any cars moving.
I could red and whites lights moving along roads. But many of the
buildings looked dark and in shadow with
few lights on.

Actually at the first location it appear to me like sunrise but at
the second location it appeared like sunset.
I have had trouble recalling all the events. But if I recall being
there at both sunrise and sunset, then I could have been there all
day. The second location was closed. And there was few people about.

At the second location I do recall a group of young people near the
XX. I think there was about 6-8 of them all together. They were
between 18-25 years old and some where sitting on a low wall. They
were near a low wall to the right of the main entrance to the XX.
They were standing around chatting. I could hear them talking. I can
only recall what two of them looked like. One man was sitting on the
wall and had a dark jacket, maybe black with short fair hair, and he
looked at me as I walked passed. The man sitting on the wall said
something to one of the women, and she turned and looked at me. I
continued walking. But I think they were taking no notice of me. I
looked straight ahead, cause some people get a bit touchy when you
look at them for a long time. I think I saw one with a beer bottle in
his hand.

One of the women was wearing a long skirt or dress. She was also
wearing a jacket. And she had her back to me. I really cannot recall
what they were wearing, and did not get a good look them. But they
were wearing
casual cloths and they looked smart. They looked well off young
people, not one of them street gangs. I think.

I do recall some other very brief memories, like I was talking to
someone at the second location. But it difficult to recall what they
look like, and what they said. I also recall sitting on the hillside,
thinking I'm stuck here, and I did not know what to do. I had no
money, no food or water, and most importantly no cigarettes.


What really puzzles me is I did not remember all this on the 8th of
September. This happened the day before
on the 7th September. I was at work at the time, and it felt like I
was really there in XX. And it was bloody chilly. It was more like a
recalling a memory or flash back than a day dream.
I first thought to myself that it was a precognition, and on the 8th
of September I carried out a power up test on the prototype
transmitter and I was disappointed, cause nothing dramatic happened.
And I did end up at the location. So I dismissed that episode as just
one of those strange things which can happen. During that power up of
the transmitter I just had a brief and strange feeling of moving
backwards and downwards by about 6" when I torched the ends of the
antenna. I did not think it was real important at the time. But when
I went over my notes like in the summaries, I start to think that
those unusual memories I can recall,
there maybe a connection with the test on the prototype transmitter.

Then, when I was going over the update summary #2. I remember doing
this diagram right. It shows a person within the Star Chamber being
entangled and splitting into two locations. One into the future and
one into the past. When in this state information will flow back can
flow between the past and future. (The green line).

And I think more information flows from the future into the past,
then info going from the past into the future. Its not just linking
up two locations and times, but 3. The past, the present and the
This form of information flow rules out many time travel paradoxes,
like I cannot go and shoot my grandfather, cause I do not physically
travel from one location to another.The only paradox which can occur
with this method is the bootstrap paradox.

Another important point I wish to point out is that I think I was at
the two locations for sometime, but I can only recall small bits. For
example if you recall going on a day trip somewhere, you usually only
recall bits of the day trip. Its difficult to recall every single

I don't know what the date or time was in XX. It may have been the
7th or 8th or 9th September. But they are many odd things I cannot
explain like the odd colour of the soil. The dirty air over the
location. And when I looked at my watch at the locations it was
showing the local time, like 08.05am at the first location. And I
looked at my watch at the second location and I think was 6.20pm.

Nor can I explain how I got from one location to the other so
quickly. This maybe caused by two reasons.
1. The memories of being at the second location was part of another
test all together.
2. I may only recall some of the memories & I may have walked from
one location to other which took all day.

The drawback with being unable to recall all what happened is your
imagination starts to fill in the gaps.
And I have been tried hard not to let this happen. What I have
experienced feels real, like recalling a distance
memory, or experiencing a flash back.

I present the information as I recall it. To me this was not very a
successful test, as many questions remain
unanswered. I hope to address this problem by carrying some more
better planned tests. I hope to carry out some new tests closer to
home. I will jump to another location close by and record my
observations. Then I can actually visit the location and compair the
information I gathered during the jump with the actual visit.

Important Observations
The prototype transmitter test occurred on the 8th September.
I experienced the memories on the 7th September.
The date I was at the locations is unknown.
It was between 08.00-08.10am at the first location.
And maybe around 06.00-07.00pm at the second location.
There was a cold wind blowing in from sea.
It was sunny with blue skies and high Cirrus clouds.
There was dry red-dark brown soil on top of the XX.
It was misty or foggy. I could not see the city clearly.
There was a large a metal sign with rules or laws printed on it, near
the second location.
There was group of young people wearing smart cloths outside the
second location.
There was 2-3 people with a 4-wheel drive car on top of the hills by
the first location.
There is no physical proof I actually visited the locations.

Experimental Time Travel Website ...IS TIME TRAVEL POSSIBLE? Is it possible to construct a machine capable of travelling into the past?. The development of a totally new form of teleportation, called the Star Chamber, will attempt to put this theory to the test !! *(TAP-TEN Member Associate)

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