Syzygy said: ↑
Is one a "nutjob" for seeking truth,
facts?--
for differentiating between science and fiction?
Einstein said:
Lol... On this website you might be labelled as such. The fun part is learning what is actually a fact. Surprisingly it appears that not many people can differentiate between a fact and a belief.
For instance: Science and Fiction. Aren't they one in the same?
#12 above
Einstein said:
If you follow conspiracy theories to their final conclusion, the it becomes plainly clear that you are instigating the removal of mankind from the face of the earth. All based on the belief that conspiracy theories are real. The very concept of a theory falls under the category of "Let's make believe".
So by all rights then conspiracy theorists are terrorists hellbent on destroying mankind.
Now if I could just use the same line of reasoning for scientific theorists, then maybe we could eliminate the concept of theory altogether.
Let's face it, the concept of "Let's make believe" is fine for entertainment. But it has no place in contributing to the advancement of science.
#16 above
Einstein;
It is apparent that you have absolutely no understanding of the concept of "theory" and I shall give up trying to explain it thru word or even example, but I do not blame you for your lack of understanding. You are a product of the education system's failing, as pointed out by Darby and Rainman Time on several occasions. I mentioned in an earlier post, perhaps I may look for it... that the term theory is erroneously and flippantly applied to any idea set forth by nearly anyone, scientist, media persona, or John Q Citizen on the internet ( nut-jobs and non-nut-jobs alike). Applying the term theory to any sort of poppy-cock offered by any of those previously mentioned, devalues the term to the point where someone, like you, disparages "all" theories.
You point out...
Einstein said:
Surprisingly it appears that not many people can differentiate between a fact and a belief.
and then you state...
Einstein said:
The very concept of a theory falls under the category of "Let's make believe".
Let's face it, the concept of "Let's make believe" is fine for entertainment. But it has no place in contributing to the advancement of science.
Your Belief...?!
When, In Fact...!!
The concept of theory is the bedrock on which "real" science is, has, and forever will be based.
Now on to the point of this post.
Einstein said:
So by all rights then conspiracy theorists are terrorists hellbent on destroying mankind.
I see the opposite situation as, the conspiracy theorists believing the conspirators are the ones that are, "terrorists hell bent on destroying mankind".
Which is why I give no consideration to the conspiracies that lean toward that concept.
If you destroy that which sustains you, logically, what could you possibly gain?
Jcpo;
Jcpo said:
The Communism and the Liberalism are two ideas that are considered as opposite but they are leading to the same capitalism !
I understand there is a language barrier that needs to be overcome but I must question your statement here.
I tried to get some information by searching the web and, while I was not surprised by the bias I found in every one of the several articles I read, I was disappointed that it exists as flagrantly as it does. I can only offer my own opinions to establish my question toward the understanding of your statement.
You state "communism and liberalism are considered opposite".
Perhaps they hold different meanings where you live as compared to how I understand them in America.
You state "they are both leading to the same capitalism".
The goals of both are actually anti-capitalistic.
Since I find no help on an internet search I offer my understanding of each.
Communism:
The Government is the be-all-end-all for the people it governs.
The government controls all domestic production.
The government seizes all of the goods of the country.
The government distributes these goods, what little is left after it's own consumption, to the people as it sees fit.
The government restricts the information it's people have access to concerning life outside it's borders as much as it possibly can.
(This is far more difficult today than it was even a decade ago as information and technology become more available to every day people, hence the movements away from communism in recent years)
There is much more to it but this will suffice for my point.
Liberalism:
The government is the primary benefactor to the people.
The government is better able to make decisions for people.
The government takes from the successful, productive people of the population, to bring them down to the "fair and equal" level of the less successful and productive people.
The government redistributes these assets, what little is left after it's own consumption, to the very least successful and productive people, to try to bring them up to the middle level.
The government claims to be the defender of individual rights, while regulating and restricting most actions the people may undertake.
Again, there is much more but I leave it here for now.
Capitalism:
The Private sector is the primary source of economic growth.
The individual is their own best vehicle to achieve success.
The open market, not regulations, is the best method for economic growth.
The government should use no more of the peoples assets than absolutely necessary for it's operation.
The assets of the people are best left in the hands of the people and let the market decide which path is the best path toward success.
There is more but again, this is enough for now.
As I see it, communism and liberalism each carry their own faults. They are more similar than different and often go hand in hand to achieve their similar goals. Control of the people.
Capitalism, regardless of the faults is does have, offers more of a chance for success than any other "ism" out there.
Do I have a bias? Absolutely! That's why I am leaving Illinois next year. I want the government out of the people's pockets, out of the control of their lives, and out of the way of economic progress, the result of their regulations.
Both Parties are currently to blame for the failing direction of the country. A complete house cleaning of the government, replace every damn one of them, and a return to government "under" the Constitution and of the people, not ignoring the Constitution and ruling the people. I do fear though, with over 45% of the people "dependent" in one way or another on the government, that we are not likely to ever again see the Country the founding father's originally envisioned. I hope I am wrong.
