A proposed volunteer time travel experiment (discontinued)

[Valeri]

THIS THREAD IS DELETED/DISCONTINUED DUE TO LACK OF INTEREST.It has run its course,and now it may be deleted.

[Einstein]

Hi Valeri

Or whoever you are. I couldn’t help but notice the errors in your grammar. It’s like a signature. And I did happen to notice your signature is identical to our John Titor impostor. That is kind of rare to have an identical signature as someone else. So I do suspect that you are the same poster as the one who posts as
Time Travel_0

[bomberman]

Einstein,
I have also noticed the constant errors in Valeri’s grammar, but they look more like errors a human would make
when not speaking english as their native language, rather than poor translation (like that “time travel 0” wannabe).
Besides, it would’nt hurt to test this guy out now would it ?

Valeri,
Just curious, where exactly are u from ?
And i couldn’t understand a lot about what you said in your initial post, but you are talking about astral time travel,
right ? If so, have you done it before ? Because if you did, then i have a good idea for you to test if your really time
traveling or not.

[JasonTer]

deleted personal attack.

[Einstein]

bomberman

The specific error I noticed right away, which is oddly shared by both posters, is that frequently there is no space following the comma. So it actually is a punctuation error. But punctuation is an integral part of grammar. You can check for yourself and see that this error is identical to both posters. I don’t see it being possible that a translator is creating the errors. And sometimes the error isn’t there. A machine translator, if it really was making this error, would not sometimes get it right.

[bomberman]

@Valeri

Seems, In my humble subjective opinion,that some people are coming off a bit jaded and cynical here. I was hoping for more positive feedback,more like bomberman was kind enough to share,with his own reservations,but non the less open-minded.

Messing with kids? I doubt kids are on this board,and if you mean people my age,I am 23, then we are mature enough to decide for ourselves. I am a bit upset,yet unfortunately not surprised,that someonewould post and say such negative things.

I said I don’t have any other usernames registered on this website,I registered in april 2008 and was absent from posting here for 4 years. I have no need to be defensive about this,because I know who I am and these accusations are empty ones.

Jasonter,please,if you don’t have anything to contribute,and since I asked in my original post that people who are not open-minded enough to please not post ,for I am not going to argue, then I simply ask again kindly. PLEASE respect the individual,aren’t there some kind of forum guidelines that speak about not using ‘‘superiority of ones knowledge over other peoples knowing’’ and not insulting people ?

bombarman,for what it is worth,I am simply and sincerely wanting to experiment with this,and I am sorry for not being understood. Tomorrow I will try to edit my OP post, to make it more coherent. Until then,please bare with me. I can only say that ‘‘astral time travel’’ is part of it yes, in the sense that ‘‘time’’ is perpendicular so to speak in the 5th dimension,rather than a linear concept known in the 3rd dimension. And as a soul essence to travel astrally one could say, but then, when needed, and a date and time is chosen,to simply enter physicality, by materializing into a physical body.(It could seem like coming into existence from thin air if I would do it in a public place,which I will not so not to startle people,but will do in a secluded place rather). I will come into physicality and effectively will be able to interact with people ‘‘face to face’’,just like a human obviously. Including meeting my ‘‘past self’’’ too.

So time travel as an ability of my spirit essence,that energizes my ‘’ personality of Valeri’', so thus ME, to move around in spirit to a time I choose,and then enter physicality,materialize a physical body for myself(while in spirit only having the ‘‘light/spirit body’’) ,so that is different than using an actual gadget or ‘‘time machine’’ or any technical device as the movies or books normally do.

A more spiritual approach,and less materialistic,but the effect is the same.

I hope this thread will not generate anymore negativity towards my persona because of me not using proper punctuation or grammar or like someone insulting me and my topic.

Oh,and I live in Estonia

Peace,
Valeri

Alright, well i think your approach is quite… interesting.
I have heard of people traveling to the past astrally, but i’ve never heard of them materializing, could
you explain the interesting science behind that ? Because i cant help but think that it is impossible, like
anybody would.

[bomberman]

Alright so you can travel to the future right ? Do you also claim you travel distances, like in astral travel ? If so,
i can give you my home adress, (i live in holland), and then you can meet me here.

So i should now expect you to spontaneously pop up when i give you my adress, right ?

[bomberman]

“I just wrote a very thorough and coherent response and then somehow it all got deleted suddenly. I am very frustrated now,for I doubt I can ever write as well as I did,to explain it.”

This made me laugh so damn hard.. XD

[Futureline]

From the Netherlands.
What is your transponder nr. ?

[bomberman]

Alright Valeri, i will message you right away;)

And i think the transponder question was for me, if so, what the hell is a transponder nr ?XD

[Sanji]

@bomberman

Alright so you can travel to the future right ? Do you also claim you travel distances, like in astral travel ? If so,
i can give you my home adress, (i live in holland), and then you can meet me here.

So i should now expect you to spontaneously pop up when i give you my adress, right ?

i like the idea and i’d like to experience it.
so valeri, i could also give you my adress so you could “spontaneously pop up”.
what do you think?

[Futureline]

Sorry the question is for "Valeri"not for “bomberman”.

Why do you all believe in story’s that have tons of riddles. Time travel is a very easy to explain if you have done it.

Example. Lets say you transport back to 1901 and some person disbelieved your story, after you told him, you are from the future. No lets say that “time travel” is the same as boarding and flying with a plane. Now…how do you explain someone that has never seen a plane, how you came to 1901. Simple. Maybe he would not understand it. But gets the principals. Boarding, take off, engine, landing… Everything i read here is filled with nonsense or just plain wrong.

Example what i read:* I drove a bicycle to my work. When i took place on my chain and sounded my pedal i was surrounded by air and noises i never heard before in my live. My bicycle was powered with a unknown source. Invisible to the eye. I could increase the power with my body as i went home. My seat was an uncomfortable piece of soft material with unknown signs on it. And so on.*

Its wrong. Has some pieces that hits the jackpot. But mostly BS and secondhand tails that have a lot of noise with it.
I you want to explain someone how you handled a bicycle you know your facts. Especially when you done it more then once. Nothing mystic or strange. You would understand and believed the person.

[Deigide]

This topic called my attention.

So, basically you’re suggesting to transfer your consciousness “into another you” in a parallel universe using an astral projection?.

[CatCarel]

How fun! But why try to prove it? For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not believe, no explanation will suffice.

[Darby]

So I ask for those who are open-minded enough,those who do not limit their own realities to the thoughts like ‘’ impossible’’ ‘‘cant be done’’ etc.
Those people have their minds made up,I am not here to argue with them.

But those of you,who have the connection to spirit,to source,to know,truly,that this is possible,or to at least be open-minded enough,despite seemingly no proof to this day of time-travel being possible(which can’t be proven by being stuck in a limited consciousness state as is 3rd dimensional thinking),those who can entertain the possibility that reality IS stranger than fiction…

to those I say,please share ideas and discuss what could I possibly do,within our world,for you to get the proof you seek.

First you make a plea for open-mindedness in choosing your experimental group and then you add specific New Age, touchie-feelie qualifiers to the group, which definitely implies anything but open-mindedness. It’s a closed minded approach.

The results that you would obtain from this experiment are pre-ordained - you’ll get what you are looking for. It may or may not reflect reality but you’ll be satisfied with the results.

Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger. That’s precisely the qualifiers that that Duke University’s Rhine Institute used when choosing likely student candidates for admission to it’s ESP research program, and precisely why they got what they were looking for - signs of ESP. Afterwards independent researchers analyzed their data and discovered researcher bias up the yang. Unsurprisingly, Duke University shut down the program.

The Appeal to Open Mind tactic usually ends up being a logical fallacy.

[Skarpz]

You can try with me. I’ll be your open minded person. Who knows right?

I’ll be your first victim.

[Darby]

Darby,as you can see from your quoting of me, I put OR in there,thus creating many ‘‘qualifiers’’ as you said. The only qualifier for this is obvious : open-mindedness.If someone says ‘‘maybe it can be done’’ then that is open-minded also. That which you refer to as ‘‘touchy feely’’ has nothing to do with emotions mind you, it is the inherent connection to essence rather,to what you and everyone else is fused by. Your atoms are not pieces of matter with no source of consciousness,but this is going off on a tangent

No, it’s not going off on a tangent at all. It’s is precisely the point I was making.

You want open minds. You now claim that there are no real “qualifiers”. But you are the experimenter and you are biased. Look at what you’ve written in just this one quoted paragraph. “inherent connection to essence”, “atoms are not pieces of matter with no consciousness”. The mind that wrote that is slammed shut on the subject.

[RainmanTime]

Valeri,

I think you should take heed of what Darby is pointing out. He has quite an academic background in “design of experiments” and that deals with, among other things, ferreting out any and all forms of bias in the experimental design itself.

RMT

[Mbelgedeshu_Nktumbab]

i want to be volunteer if it is true…

[Darby]

@Mbelgedeshu Nktumbaba

i want to be volunteer if it is true…

In stating “if it is true” do you mean if it is true the he wants to run a serious experiment, or “if it is true” [his stated ideas about time travel, parallel worlds, etc.]? (Brackets used for brevity - I didn’t want to re-state his entire initial post )