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Shadow,

rgrunt is not posting a GUT, it is a theory. It is as vaid as any other. If you can disprove it, do so.

If rgrunt wants that to be his name, then that is his choice. He does sign his name if you care to look.

A Lot can gained with an once of fact and it can be helpful to speculate. That is where ideas come from.

Those ideas are the basis for inventions that make all we have now possible.

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TT_0 or time traveler....

please respond to my previously posted post?

thanks

 
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Get in line. He took 5 days to answer mine last time
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I think that the act of time-traveling removes one from the stream of events.

Let's say I go back to 1980. This is the original timeline:

---1980-----------2000

When I go back, a new timeline is created...

---1980-----------2000
\
\
\
\----------2000

...and the old one disappears. I still exist because the instant I appear in the past, I am in the new timeline.

---1980
\
\
\
\----------2000

I don't believe the theory that time-travelers fulfill their destined role in the past. If an old man tells me how to build a time machine, and I do, and when I get old, I tell my younger self how to build a time machine, where does the time machine come from?
 
I think that the act of time-traveling removes one from the stream of events.

Let's say I go back to 1980. This is the original timeline:

---1980-----------2000

When I go back, a new timeline is created...

---1980-----------2000

\

\

\

\----------2000

...and the old one disappears. I still exist because the instant I appear in the past, I am in the new timeline.

---1980

\

\

\

\----------2000

I don't believe the theory that time-travelers fulfill their destined role in the past. If an old man tells me how to build a time machine, and I do, and when I get old, I tell my younger self how to build a time machine, where does the time machine come from?

 
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Hey Doc Brown!
took a look at your web site it is very interesting.wow, I see you have done a lot of research.
your link didnt work at first in your profile. then I realized you just typed it wrong.
should be .com/x_squared
(just to let you know..so others can view your site..
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I like the music!!

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Hey Doc Brown!

took a look at your web site it is very interesting.wow, I see you have done a lot of research.

your link didnt work at first in your profile. then I realized you just typed it wrong.

should be .com/x_squared

(just to let you know..so others can view your site.. )

I like the music!!

[This message has been edited by pamela (edited 23 February 2001).]

 
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Doc brown, from your web site:

"If a time-traveler somehow got stranded in the past, he might have descendants. If this were the case with a lot of time-travelers, that would make our species appear older than it is."

I've often thought of this as a matter of fact.


Here is one for you....
What if a lonely time traveler got stuck way in the past something went wrong with his machine and it blew up after he managed to get out. lonely and depressed he knew he was never going to get back home.
Millions of years in the past he looked out over his horizon the closest thing he had to relate to were the apes nearby...

And I think you were suggesting there may be a time line where the dinosaurs never got destroyed but evolved and developed into a higher species. and then developed time travel.and then visited different world lines.??

you could probably take that a step further and try to imagine what a species would look like if you combined the DNA from different worldlines.

it seems like the further a species evolves they will eventually get into DNA manipulation and altering. creating new species to their own liking and after their own images.

I enjoyed reading all the info you have on your sight. especially the archaeological
pictures. I didnt get to read all of it I will have to go back to it later.

happy.gif

pamela



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Doc brown, from your web site:

"If a time-traveler somehow got stranded in the past, he might have descendants. If this were the case with a lot of time-travelers, that would make our species appear older than it is."

I've often thought of this as a matter of fact.

Here is one for you....

What if a lonely time traveler got stuck way in the past something went wrong with his machine and it blew up after he managed to get out. lonely and depressed he knew he was never going to get back home.

Millions of years in the past he looked out over his horizon the closest thing he had to relate to were the apes nearby...

And I think you were suggesting there may be a time line where the dinosaurs never got destroyed but evolved and developed into a higher species. and then developed time travel.and then visited different world lines.??

you could probably take that a step further and try to imagine what a species would look like if you combined the DNA from different worldlines.

it seems like the further a species evolves they will eventually get into DNA manipulation and altering. creating new species to their own liking and after their own images.

I enjoyed reading all the info you have on your sight. especially the archaeological

pictures. I didnt get to read all of it I will have to go back to it later.

pamela

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I didn't say there was an alternate timeline in which the dinosaurs were intelligent. I said something even weirder-- that they were intelligent in this timeline (it's possible, because the velociraptor was as smart as a chimpanzee, and for us, it was only 5 million years from there).
 
I didn't say there was an alternate timeline in which the dinosaurs were intelligent. I said something even weirder-- that they were intelligent in this timeline (it's possible, because the velociraptor was as smart as a chimpanzee, and for us, it was only 5 million years from there).

 
Doc Brown:

While it does indeed seem that the velociraptor was quite intelligent, (as evidenced by it's proportionately sized brain cavity found in the fossil remains,) I would want to consult a serious paleo-biologist before I would speculate elevating to the level of the chimpoanzee. Do you possibly have a reputable source that can speculate this with impunity? I'd appreciate your sharing it.

As to the 5 million years "from there" in the "present timeline", I'd have to say you are off by about 55 or 60 million years.

The Chimpanzee is not radically older in evolutionary time than is man. The Great Apes are not our ancestors, just a separate branch of evolution that came from the same source as we did about 3-5 million years ago.

(Or maybe I misunderstood you and that IS what you meant?)

But the Velociraptors still went extinct 60-65 million years ago. In "this" (ahem) Timeline.
 
Doc Brown:

While it does indeed seem that the velociraptor was quite intelligent, (as evidenced by it's proportionately sized brain cavity found in the fossil remains,) I would want to consult a serious paleo-biologist before I would speculate elevating to the level of the chimpoanzee. Do you possibly have a reputable source that can speculate this with impunity? I'd appreciate your sharing it.

As to the 5 million years "from there" in the "present timeline", I'd have to say you are off by about 55 or 60 million years.

The Chimpanzee is not radically older in evolutionary time than is man. The Great Apes are not our ancestors, just a separate branch of evolution that came from the same source as we did about 3-5 million years ago.

(Or maybe I misunderstood you and that IS what you meant?)

But the Velociraptors still went extinct 60-65 million years ago. In "this" (ahem) Timeline.

 
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i am wondering with the recent discovery of making a laser go many times faster than the speed of light and with the recent experiment with slowing light to a stop if they can actually prove some of these paradoxes now. not so as to sending someone back in time, but in a lab setting.
 
i am wondering with the recent discovery of making a laser go many times faster than the speed of light and with the recent experiment with slowing light to a stop if they can actually prove some of these paradoxes now. not so as to sending someone back in time, but in a lab setting.

 
TimeTravel_0,

Hello - and hello to Pamela and Javier.

We do get around. As John Titor on another site, I ask you if your name was an anagram for "I John Trot", aka Clown, Clodpole, Clodpate. I accidentally arrived at this site tonight and found Trott conversing with you on the thread.

Have I nailed the anagram or is this a very strange considence?

- for those unfamiliar with my dialogue with John Titor/TimeTravel_0 please note that I find John to be humorous as well as interesting. I enjoy the threads on which he posts.
 
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