Donald Titor

Tycoon

Temporal Novice
Hello.

I posted this several months ago on another board which was then shared as a joke on other news sites, but feel the time is right to share this where it all began. This is not a joke. This is the truth. Everything is coming full circle.

After Nikola Tesla's death, the FBI ordered the Alien Property Custodian to seize Tesla's belongings, even though Tesla was an American citizen.

The National Defense Research Committee called in an MIT professor to make sense of Tesla's notes in order to analyze if anything in them could be weaponized.

That MIT professor was John Trump.

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If you are not familiar with Tesla's theories in his later years, he explored fantastic topics like free energy, anti gravity, invisibility and even time travel.

John Trump claimed that there was nothing of any real substance in Tesla's notes, but this of course was a lie. He knew that if the NDRC realized what the notes contained, it would mean the end of the world because included in them were blueprints for a theoretical time machine.

Although John Trump thought that Tesla's time machine was plausible, it was not possible to create using the technology existing during his time. John Trump later died in 1985, but not before leaving Tesla's notes and their implications to the protection of his beloved nephew, Donald Trump.

Around the same time period, Donald Trump was known to use pseudonyms such as John Miller and John Barron, in partial homage to his uncle. However, there was another pseudonym that Trump was not so well known for using. John Titor.

Trump, as John Titor, traveled to the future under the assumed identity of a solider, where he discovered that America (and the entire world) had become a nuclear dystopia caused by radical Islamic terror.

"John Titor" began posting to this forum and others in 2000 and 2001, speaking of events that happened in the timeline he had witnessed. He spoke of terrible events that would occur from the early 2000s through to 2012. He could not name radical Islamic terror at the time, or the timeline would have become unavoidable. He had to be extremely cautious, and analyze the near infinite temporal variables and possibilities before making his move.

Trump traveled in time, amassing a fortune and making subtle changes, which helped him delay the future he saw for as long as he could. But that future is now coming. Trump knew that the only way he could have enough influence to prevent that future entirely would be to become President of the United States of America.

If it has ever seemed to you that Trump has a bizarre ability to accurately predict and manipulate his political opponents to his advantage, you're on the right track. The truth is, they're not predictions. Rather, they are foreordained events. Trump's manipulations are also the cause of the Mandela Effect. Everything you thought you knew but found out later was incorrect (Bernstein Bears, Oscar Meyer, Alec Guinness's death, etc)

However, there is one thing you need to know about Donald Trump's presidency:

Trump wants to be President, but not for very long. Only as long as it takes. He always said he wouldn't want to be President if there was someone else he thought would do a good job. This is where Mike Pence comes in.

You see, Mike Pence is also a time traveler, whom Trump met many years ago (depending on your perspective). Pence is from far further in the future, and has a superior time machine. To put it simply, he can be present in multiple places at the same time.

As a side note, if you ever thought Pence looked a little strange or out of place, it's because he's from far enough in the future where all the races have homogenized. Mike Pence (or rather, copies of him) were sent back to the past by Pence Prime and Trump in order to infiltrate the lives of their many enemies. Many of them you've never heard of or ever will hear of. They've met or will meet their demise or fall into obscurity long before they can become a threat to Trump.

Pence's motive to help Trump are as follows:

A) Avoid temporal conflict

B) Become President himself, as promised by Trump

A rudimentary variant of time travel is currently known to those presently in power, but it is not without its side effects:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28fPfhCyx-o

Their overuse of the technology, while certainly having a negative impact on the health of their agents, has time and again stymied a lot of Trump and Pence's plans. However, they are not aware of Trump's technology. One such copy of Pence has recently been confirmed as Tim Kaine's wife:

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I do not have first hand knowledge of this, but I am assuming my prior claims that Hillary would win (but later be found to have manipulated the vote and lost after the recount) were affected by further temporal manipulations involving blackmail regarding this truth.

I am keeping my identity and location secret, but will revisit from time to time to answer what questions I can.

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Yes, John G. Trump was an intelligent man and Trump's uncle. Not all intelligent men were time travelers, though, but you never know. I can't dismiss it without investigating.

John Trump warned Donald of the dangers of nukes and his quote is listed online if you Google it --- proof that Donald does NOT support the use of nuclear weapons.

Anyway, the Trump family apparently has brains.

 
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Welp I don't know what to think however the script writer of the back to the future series said he based the rich biff figure on Donald Trump. Steven Gibbs the hdr inventor claims that Steven Spielberg was contacted by a real time traveler before the movies were written. Never quite know do ya? Biff in BTTF2 got rich with casinos and sports betting how? by stealing the delorean and using it.

I don't know if Donald Trump is a time traveler but I'll bet he was briefed by the gov that he was seen as a possible future president just like Andrew Basiago claimed about himself and Obama. The project looking glass Dan Burisch mentions says they can see probable futures and their presidents.

Well guess the MIT educated John G. Trump as his uncle is true.

John G. Trump - Wikipedia

 
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Jesus, I found a hellva lot of parallels in back to the future to the trump family. My god.

Fred Trump Jr is Marty McFly

John G. Trump is Doc Brown

Donald Trump is Biff.

John G. Trump worked with Van De Graaf himself who was critical in the development of the manhattan project. John G. Trump was an MIT Professor for 39yrs..he died in 1985(not a coincidence). His family immigrated from germany in 1885(not a coincidence). Doc Brown in BTTF said his family immigrated from germany and changed his name from Von Braun to Brown after the first world war. Just like the Trumps(they changed their name from Trump to Trumpf, originally it was changed from Drumpf to Trump in the 1600's).

George Van Tassel claimed to had made a time machine with a Van De Graaf generator in the 40's himself. He also invented the non-completed Integraton as a 'time machine' that would reverse the aging of anyone inside when it was fully assembled. Steven Gibbs himself was going to rent the Integraton for Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy TV show to live demonstrate time travel utilizing the stable non-moving vortex within the Integraton. The producers wanted to limit what he could say so Gibbs declined the show's invitation.

Michael J. Fox played a kid Marty McFly in Back to the Future he was 16(actor was 25).

Christopher Lloyd played Doc Brown character age unknown(real life age 47).

Thomas Wilson played Biff character age unknown(real life age 26).

Fred Trump Jr was deceased in 1985 when the movie filmed but would've been 47.

John G. Trump was 78 in 1985 when he died.

Donald Trump was 37 in 1985.

In 1955, Fred Trump was 17(marty mcfly was 16 in the movie), John G. Trump was 47(same age of christopher lloyd in the 1985 movie), and Donald Trump was 9. NOT a COINCIDENCE. Means the movie events of time travel in the shopping mall parking lot wasn't in 1985 but 1955.

Michael J. Fox's character Marty McFly in 2015 was 47 when he lost his job and his strangely acting son got into trouble. Fred Trump Jr's kid had cerebral palsy and needs full time medical care. Might explain why Marty's son was depicted so inept. Marty McFly's life didn't work out well after he ran into the Rolls Royce car drag racing, hurting his hand preventing him from a musical career. His 2015 future 47yr old self acted like he might've had a drinking problem. Not to mention Fred Trump jr would've been 47 in 1985! Fred Trump jr left his father's real estate business, went to Florida, worked as an airline pilot and fisherman, failed at both, went back to NY to work with his dad as a workmen on a crew and drank himself to death. In Back to the Future future 2015 Marty McFly got fired from his job.

Fred Trump jr is in the middle with the dark jacket. Donald is on the left. Fred jr sure looks like a young Michael J. Fox or the original selection of Marty McFly Eric Stoltz.

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I really do think this story might be correct. Did Donald or does he currently have the use of a time machine? Is he John Titor?

Donald Trump's middle name is John btw. I'm starting to think the back to the future movies are depicting a fight within the Trump family itself. The uncle John G Trump the scientist acting as mentor to Fred Trump Jr's(donald's alcoholic brother when as a kid) in 1955 and then causing a split in the family for some reason. Turns out that Fred Trump sr(donald's father) partnered with his Mom to start developing real estate as a teenager. He funded John G. Trump(his youngest brother) to attend college to become a MIT scientist. Later Donald Trump helped draft his father's will and cut Fred Trump jr's kids out of the will for some reason. Why were they cut out? Perhaps the uncle scientist and his older brother wouldn't share something in the past?

Even Donald Trump's grandfather immigrated to the US in 1885, lived in seattle washington owning a tavern and restaurant. Later moved to another area on the west coast to join the gold boom.

In back to the future 3 the old west version both Marty McFly's and Biff Tannen's ancestors were old west characters. McFly's character was a saloon owner and Biff was a criminal. The biography of Donald's grandfather was he was a saloon owner in the seediest part of seattle at the time and later moved to a more rustic area to make money in the gold rush.

Mad Dog Tannen or Seamus McFly?(or both)
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Frederick Trump - Wikipedia

Blows my mind, seems like both biff and McFly are representatives and sometimes composite figures of Donald and his brother Fred Jr. In first we don't see Biff's parents but we do see a parental figure in the sequel. An old lady that screams at Biff to close the garage door with old lady signs littering the lawn. Seems like his grandma. Donald Trump was sent off to military school for a while disowned by his parents for his bullying antics as a kid. Is this a nod to that reality? Are Marty McFly and Biff related in the movie? Biff seems older than Marty but in reality Fred Jr(marty) was older than Donald(biff) by 8 years.

Donald has 2 sisters and 2 brothers. Fred jr was a lot older. His other brother Roger Trump is only 2 years younger. Is Roger the model for George McFly in the movie. The one he bullies a lot? Seems like Biff's and McFly's families are the same one.

Here's another thought, the article states that schematics and information about John G Trump's time machine was given to Donald in 1985 the year of his death. Meaning it might've been only information not an actual machine.

Steven Gibbs claims he met John Titor when he sold him an hdr. Titor claimed in his blog posts he was coming back in time for an IBM5100 plus a few other items he wouldn't mention. Was the hdr one of them? Gibbs says yes. Could it be that Donald Trump got info from his dying uncle on time travel and that he later looked up other time travel devices that were available at the time like the hdr?

Could Donald have bought one, went to 2036 saw the apocalyptic future and then returned with his GE model time machine built in the future possibly with the information his uncle shared with him?

Donald Trump's father died in 1999, his mom in 2000. Is that why John Titor said he came back to that time period and lived with his parents? He said he came back in 1999 but only started to make IRC comments in 2000. His younger self then wouldn't have been a youngster but rather already in his 50 and not living in the same house.

Temporal Recon that wrote the book about Titor called 'Conviction of a Time Traveler' stated that he found out Titor was lying about the microsingularity black holes being created by CERN and that he wasn't in the military but rather was a defense contractor civilian. I found you can manufacture microblackholes from tesla tech and particular substances pretty easily.

Hdrkid on here has admitted that Al Gore was the president on his original timeline and he worked to make George Bush president in Florida by working certain precincts. Does that mean Donald Trump could've done similar things by buying an early HDR? Could've Trump traveled to the future and then got a GE created time machine after experiencing his own form of tesla tech disclosure by his uncle and came back?

Sure makes ya wonder.

Are we halfway through the Back to the Future trilogy where Biff got the Sports Almanac where Doc Brown and Marty both return to the alternate 1985 where Biff is rich and has been since 1955 to 1985? Did they already fix it and change it back but from our perspective it hasn't happened yet? Could be. Means the past might change at any moment to a futuristic 2015 with flying cars.

Even if Biff saw an apocalyptic future he wouldn't be cool with it.

Forgot to mention the 5 main points of my argument:

1)Steven Gibbs claims to have met John Titor selling him one when he appeared back in time to get the IBM5100(80's timeframe I think). The only man I know of who claims to have met him in person.

2)Steven Gibbs said that a time traveler met Steven Spielberg and the result was the Back to the Future movies.

3)Bob Gale the Back to the Future script writer claims the original design of the time machine wasn't a delorean but a refrigerator that required a nuclear explosion to time travel.

4)Steven Spielberg made Indiana Jones climb into a refrigerator during a nuclear bomb explosion in Kingdom of the Crystal skull 2008 movie.

5)Phil Schneider the deep underground base and alien whistleblower claimed in the 90's he was working for his father's excavation company enlarging a gov deep underground base by contract when they broke into an natural cavern full of grey aliens. They attacked him and a delta force team, cutting off 3 fingers and cutting open his chest. The point of the story is he also claims his father recounted that they could see stars in space at the ground zero of the first nuclear test at the trinity explosion site. He says nuclear explosions warp spacetime. He also claims in his father's personal notes that he discovered after he died was a recipe to turn mercury into gold using a geode. That process is verified and works.

Didn't even mention the video showing 911 indicators in the original back to the future movie. John Titor made a comment to the effect of: 'what if the twin towers weren't there anymore?'


Is it a coincidence that John G. Trump, donald's scientist uncle dies in 1985 the same year that Doc Brown is shot and dies by libyan terrrorists in the movie? He dies in real life on February 21, 1985 (aged 77). They travel to the future to October 21st, 2015. Christopher Lloyd was born October 22nd, 1938. He was 77 years old in 2015.

Portrait of the Trump family: from left to right: Frederick Trump Sr(Donald's father) Frederick Trump(grandfather) Elizabeth Trump(aunt), Elizabeth Christ Trump(aunt), and John G Trump(scientist uncle) 1915

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John G. Trump was survived by three children: John Gordon Trump of Watertown, Mass., Christine Philp of Pittsfield, Mass., and Karen Ingraham of Los Alamos, N. M.; and six grandchildren. His daughter works at Los Alamos. Surprise, surprise. Everyone that lives in Los Alamos works at Los Alamos National labs or companies that support it.

Weirded out yet?

Are these major indicators that Trump is the most likely candidate to be John Titor?

 
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Jesus, I found a hellva lot of parallels in back to the future to the trump family. My god.
Fred Trump Jr is Marty McFly

John G. Trump is doc brown

Donald Trump is biff.

John G. Trump worked with Van De Graaf himself who was critical in the development of the manhattan project. John G. Trump was an MIT Professor for 39yrs..he died in 1985(not a coincidence). His family immigrated from germany in 1885(not a coincidence). Doc Brown in BTTF said his family immigrated from germany and changed his name from Von Braun to Brown after the first world war. Just like the Trumps(they changed their name from Trump to Trumpf, originally it was changed from Drumpf to Trump in the 1600's).

George Van Tassel claimed to had made a time machine with a Van De Graaf generator in the 40's himself. He also invented the non-completed Integraton as a 'time machine' that would reverse the aging of anyone inside when it was fully assembled. Steven Gibbs himself was going to rent the Integraton for Jesse Ventura's Conspiracy TV show to live demonstrate time travel utilizing the stable non-moving vortex within the Integraton. The producers wanted to limit what he could say so Gibbs declined the show's invitation.

Michael J. Fox played a kid Marty McFly in Back to the Future he was 16(actor was 25).

Christopher Lloyd played Doc Brown character age unknown(real life age 47).

Thomas Wilson played Biff character age unknown(real life age 26).

Fred Trump Jr was deceased in 1985 when the movie filmed but would've been 47.

John G. Trump was 78 in 1985 when he died.

Donald Trump was 37 in 1985.

In 1955, Fred Trump was 17, John G. Trump was 47, and Donald Trump was 7. NOT a COINCIDENCE.

Michael J. Fox's character Marty McFly in 2015 was 47 when he lost his job and his retarded strangely acting son got into trouble. Fred Trump Jr's kid had cerebral palsy and needs full time medical care. Marty McFly's life didn't work out well after he ran into the rolls royce car drag racing, hurting his hand preventing him from a musical career. His 2015 future 47yr old self acted like he might've had a drinking problem. Not to mention Fred Trump jr would've been 47 in 1985!

I really do think this story might be correct. Did Donald or does he currently have the use of a time machine? Is he John Titor?


 
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awesome video paulajedi. 10:04 seen on the clocktower as it was frozen by the lightning strike is also the exact time the shanksville flight united 93 hit the ground at 10:03 on 9/11.

Sure seems like Donald Trump is the time traveler that contacted Steven Spielberg and bought an hdr from Steven Gibbs.

 
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HOLY CRAP!

Does this quote from John Titor from the year 2000 sound like Donald Trump?

“Perhaps I should let you all in on a little secret. NO ONE LIKES YOU IN THE FUTURE. This time period is looked at as being full of lazy, self-centered, civically ignorant sheep,” Titor wrote in one post.

Fred Trump Sr(his father) died June 25th, 1999. His mom died August 7th, 2000. John Titor started posting on IRC November 2nd, 2000 and his last was March 1st, 2001. If he came back almost a year and a half before his first post he would've been with his father before he died. Then left 7 months after his mom passed. Almost 2 years. Posted for 6 months.

Trump admitted to drafting his father's will before he died at the age of 94. That's when he removed Fred Trump Jr children from the will. Wonder why he did that. Was right before John Titor started posting. Coincidence?

Perhaps his parents are still alive in the future. Makes ya go hmm.

I see two possiblities:

1) John Titor is a parallel Donald Trump who was born later(1997)and lived through the US civil war, the nuking from russia, etc and traveled back to visit his parallel younger self(our donald trump who of course would've been 50 something in 2000). His timeline was different than ours cuz not all of his predictions came true.

2)He's recounting stories from nuclear and civil war survivors from 2036 as a cover ID.

I'd say the 2nd was likely considering his prominence in society. He'd want a good cover story.

I wonder if his deceased brother Fred Trump jr who died in 1981 is also still alive at some point in the future or past.

 
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Interesting theories, Fizz. I'm not so sure Trump was Titor but I personally like to think he was simply "predicted" and evidence is BTTF 2. Besides, Razimus claims he has debunked the entire Titor saga and is going to announce it on December 31st. I'll make a new thread about that so we don't go off topic. :)

 
OP this is still one of the funniest things I've seen on this board. Well done.

Here's a pretty good summary video of the Donald Trump as a time traveler theory. Funny too ?

 
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