Michael Janks
Temporal Novice
A Time Traveler will never disclose his origin or his existence
A Time Traveler will never disclose his origin or his existence
That's quite an assertion as well as the other assertion you make that a time traveller will never be female.
Hi Mylo.X. Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately i can not go into depth regarding the exclusion of Woman Time Travelers, But it has to do with the possibility of her being pregnant and traveling to the future or past and giving birth there, which could cause a paradox., alternatively there may be a chance of the Woman Time traveler either traveling back or forward in time and becoming pregnant there. the most I can say is the evolution of man and the chance that the DNA would not be compatible in a future or past time, causing an unstable Time Line or alternative Time LineThat's quite an assertion as well as the other assertion you make that a time traveller will never be female.
There are female time travellers in my story...the story wouldn't be half as much fun without them.
There are female time travellers in my story...the story wouldn't be half as much fun without them.
Hi Vodkafan. Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately i can not go into depth regarding the exclusion of Woman Time Travelers, But it has to do with the possibility of her being pregnant and traveling to the future or past and giving birth there, which could cause a paradox., alternatively there may be a chance of the Woman Time traveler either traveling back or forward in time and becoming pregnant there. the most I can say is the evolution of man and the chance that the DNA would not be compatible in a future or past time, causing an unstable Time Line or alternative Time LineThere are female time travellers in my story...the story wouldn't be half as much fun without them.
Yes but reality is very differentThere are female time travellers in my story...the story wouldn't be half as much fun without them.
Hi Vodkafan. Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately i can not go into depth regarding the exclusion of Woman Time Travelers, But it has to do with the possibility of her being pregnant and traveling to the future or past and giving birth there, which could cause a paradox., alternatively there may be a chance of the Woman Time traveler either traveling back or forward in time and becoming pregnant there. the most I can say is the evolution of man and the chance that the DNA would not be compatible in a future or past time, causing an unstable Time Line or alternative Time Line
the most I can say is the evolution of man and the chance that the DNA would not be compatible in a future or past time, causing an unstable Time Line or alternative Time Line
Hi Vodkafan. Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately i can not go into depth regarding the exclusion of Woman Time Travelers, But it has to do with the possibility of her being pregnant and traveling to the future or past and giving birth there, which could cause a paradox., alternatively there may be a chance of the Woman Time traveler either traveling back or forward in time and becoming pregnant there. the most I can say is the evolution of man and the chance that the DNA would not be compatible in a future or past time, causing an unstable Time Line or alternative Time Line
A Time Traveler will never disclose his origin or his existence
Michael,
I'm with Ray regarding "unstable Time Lines" and "alternative Time Lines". Absent some physics based definitions of these terms we can't be sure what they mean.
A female time traveler giving birth doesn't necessarily introduce a paradox. If that's when the child is born, then that's when the child is born. There's no violation of the laws of physics and no violation of causality. The general population may not be aware of when she became pregnant, possibly resulting in some confusion in their minds. That's because they lack certain facts. She would have all the facts, would have lived the period in a very linear temporal fashion: she got pregnant --> carried the fetus --> gave birth in that order. She wouldn't be confused or perceive a paradox. The series of events are self-consistent.
DNA incompatibility wouldn't be a problem. There would simply be no pregnancy. There's no logical reason or physics reason for this to rip open the fabric of space-time and cause instability.
That all being said, there are scenarios where time travelers and pregnancy can lead to paradoxes. It makes no difference whether the time traveler is male or female. I'll give you a female scenario. You can figure out the male version.
A female time traveler, age late 30's, travels to some point in the future. Say 200 years. It's an extended stay and while there she becomes pregnant and gives birth to a girl. Mom, uninterested in raising a child, immediately travels on into the more distant future never to return to any point in the past. Dad gets custody.
Dad dies while his daughter is 1 yr old. Daughter inherits a Box of technical papers left behind by Mom. Daughter is raised by foster families. The foster families have almost no information about Dad and no information about Mom.
Daughter is a physics progeny and graduates from university with a PhD in theoretical physics at age 20. She's looked at the papers in the Box before but now she fully understands them. They are plans for a time machine written by Mom circa the time that Mom apparently came from as evidenced by dates in the manuscript. Daughter builds the machine and time travels back hunting for Mom. She spends the next 18 years looking for Mom to no avail. Now in her late 30's she travels back to a year or so before her birth - again looking for Mom.
She doesn't find Mom but meets a man, they have an affair, she become pregnant, gives birth to a girl and names the girl after herself. She has no interest in motherhood, abandons her child to Dad and travels further into the future again looking for Mom - never to return to the past. She did, however, leave the Box of technical papers for her Daughter.
The first paradox is obvious: She gave birth to herself. The second paradox may not be so obvious: Where the hell did the plans for the time machine come from? These two situations are paradoxical because they are not self-consistent.
Hi Vodkafan. You are perfectly correct in your assertion. Perhaps My explanation was not as I intended. A male Time traveler would not be able to impregnate a woman in a timeline where his DNA differs, he would simply be as if he were infertile and the impregnation just would not be possible. My main point was the possibility of a pregnant female traveling forward or backward in time and giving birth in another point in time other than her own. this brings in a new paradox being a birth of a child "Out Of Time" which seems more difficult to explain than the "Grand Father" paradoxSorry Michael your assertion carries no logic: A man carries half the DNA of any potential foetus . A male time traveller can impregnate a woman Whenever time he goes to and create just as catastrophic a paradox. How is that any different?
Are you implying that a female time traveller could not be trusted not to get pregnant as soon as she got somewhen else?
Hi Vodkafan. You are perfectly correct in your assertion. Perhaps My explanation was not as I intended. A male Time traveler would not be able to impregnate a woman in a timeline where his DNA differs, he would simply be as if he were infertile and the impregnation just would not be possible. My main point was the possibility of a pregnant female traveling forward or backward in time and giving birth in another point in time other than her own. this brings in a new paradox being a birth of a child "Out Of Time" which seems more difficult to explain than the "Grand Father" paradox
Michael,
I'm with Ray regarding "unstable Time Lines" and "alternative Time Lines". Absent some physics based definitions of these terms we can't be sure what they mean.
A female time traveler giving birth doesn't necessarily introduce a paradox. If that's when the child is born, then that's when the child is born. There's no violation of the laws of physics and no violation of causality. The general population may not be aware of when she became pregnant, possibly resulting in some confusion in their minds. That's because they lack certain facts. She would have all the facts, would have lived the period in a very linear temporal fashion: she got pregnant --> carried the fetus --> gave birth in that order. She wouldn't be confused or perceive a paradox. The series of events are self-consistent.
DNA incompatibility wouldn't be a problem. There would simply be no pregnancy. There's no logical reason or physics reason for this to rip open the fabric of space-time and cause instability.
That all being said, there are scenarios where time travelers and pregnancy can lead to paradoxes. It makes no difference whether the time traveler is male or female. I'll give you a female scenario. You can figure out the male version.
A female time traveler, age late 30's, travels to some point in the future. Say 200 years. It's an extended stay and while there she becomes pregnant and gives birth to a girl. Mom, uninterested in raising a child, immediately travels on into the more distant future never to return to any point in the past. Dad gets custody.
Dad dies while his daughter is 1 yr old. Daughter inherits a Box of technical papers left behind by Mom. Daughter is raised by foster families. The foster families have almost no information about Dad and no information about Mom.
Daughter is a physics progeny and graduates from university with a PhD in theoretical physics at age 20. She's looked at the papers in the Box before but now she fully understands them. They are plans for a time machine written by Mom circa the time that Mom apparently came from as evidenced by dates in the manuscript. Daughter builds the machine and time travels back hunting for Mom. She spends the next 18 years looking for Mom to no avail. Now in her late 30's she travels back to a year or so before her birth - again looking for Mom.
She doesn't find Mom but meets a man, they have an affair, she become pregnant, gives birth to a girl and names the girl after herself. She has no interest in motherhood, abandons her child to Dad and travels further into the future again looking for Mom - never to return to the past. She did, however, leave the Box of technical papers for her Daughter.
The first paradox is obvious: She gave birth to herself. The second paradox may not be so obvious: Where the hell did the plans for the time machine come from? These two situations are paradoxical because they are not self-consistent.
Hi DarbyMichael,
Why not? Given that time travel implies "forever" being accessible and "now" being re-visitable, some time, some where, some time traveler will eventually spill the beans. In fact, the implication is that a potential infinite number of time travelers will have always spilled the beans.
The most closely guarded secret in US, Canadian and UK history was the Manhattan Project. That secret lasted for a few months before the beans were spilled all over the Kremlin. There were times when Stalin was briefed by the NKVD (later called KGB) about Manhattan advancements before Roosevelt was briefed by the War Department (now called DoD).
Therefore I would think there would be strict laws laid down and adhered to by a said Time traveler, one being not to disclose his existence to a time where Time Travel is yet not discovered
Hi Darby
Understood 100%. But I would like to think that time travel in the future would be closely guarded and only available to those who are completely versed and trained in the understanding and implications of one traveling in time. Therefore I would think there would be strict laws laid down and adhered to by a said Time traveler, one being not to disclose his existence to a time where Time Travel is yet not discovered
Again, that's the problem when considering the implications of time travel. If you have to guard a secret literally forever it will eventually fail to be kept. It only takes one instance of leaking the information for it to be leaked an infinite number of times both in the future and in the past. But if it is leaked in the past WRT you then it isn't a secret. The issue becomes one of who leaked the information and when? It would appear that the secret was never a secret at all, i.e. everyone already knows the information but no one can source the information. Paradoxically, the information appears to have created itself, so to speak.