The Mystery Spot
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Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
I don't know how to make objects change their size. Obviously changing the angle of the horizontal will not cause an object to change its size. Even though Gpa is using that explanation. No one has ever proved this to be an illusion. But if you feel you can. Go for it.
Nicolas
Temporal Navigator
Me neither. All I said is that that video can be easily reproduced anywhere. I'm not talking about any other video or phenomena, just that one I mentioned a few posts ago.I'll tell you what. I'll try to do this in my own terms and you can criticize it later. This will be a busy week so I won't promise anything. Maybe the weekend.
I'm very open about this, just so you know. I'm only defending this position because I can see (in theory) how it works. It makes total sense to me. But who knows, I could be wrong. Nothing better than an experiment to decide that!
That is valid IF people are changing sizes. My approach is that they aren't and this is an easy to reproduce illusion. If so, you don't have to measure.But enough of typing, I'll design this idea and see how its execution works.
We have a place near us in Northern California, Confusion Hill which has the same aspects. Also, as a teenager there used to be an attraction at Six Flags Over Texas with a leaning house - anything can be built to lean, the question is in relation to gravitational forces and whether or not those forces can change our perceptions of reality or whether our reality is actually changed - yes?
Right. It's a simple way to show if people are changing sizes and if they are, the proof is right there before your eyes.
I'm sure there would be a way to create an illusion, but having the ability to create an illusion doesn't mean that all anomolies automatically are.I still need to go to the Florida one to find out for myself.....
Liked that' date=' did ya. That's one of them high-dollar college words. Did it cause you to stop and think for a moment? Did you have to look it up? It appears you missed it, the first time I referred to you with that word. If it grabbed your attention and caused some activity in your brain then, it served it's purpose. In any event, it absolutely fits you.I can't tell if your ignorance is willful or a result of some thing else. Regardless, having said before, that I thought you were a seemingly intelligent person, I find I must rescind that statement, in light of your persistent choice to deny facts and logic while you blissfully continue down a path of ignorance.Once again Einstein, you choose the facts, as you wish for them to be, to support your position. You maintain, there is a sufficient, gravitational anomaly, at this location, to PHYSICALLY change a person's height, by several inches, within 4-5 feet distance. Do you REALLY believe a person could expand or contract by several inches...AND SURVIVE!!!!Let's compare what you have said in the past.
2-16-2015http://timetravelinstitute.com/threads/john-titors-questions-answered.8782/#post-84814
10-8-2014http://timetravelinstitute.com/threads/john-titor-returning-october-or-november.8677/page-4#post-84373
12-14-2012http://timetravelinstitute.com/threads/jt-is-fake-period.7730/#post-76505Maybe, you can do some of that fancy 'calculatin' and show us just how many of them there gee's it would take to "crush" a man by several inches...? Maybe...? Huh?
12-13-2007So, have you made your mind up yet? Can gravity severely affect something but, not the rest of the immediate surroundings...or not...??I include a picture with some lines drawn in for reference. As you can see by the yellow line at the board they are standing on, she is about the thickness of the board "higher" than he is, ~ 3-4 inches. She is also closer to the camera. These two differences, higher and closer will make her appear "taller", in comparison to him, than she really is.A mind is a terrible thing to waste... really does hold some meaning, doesn't it?View attachment 526View attachment 526
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
Gpa
I think you need more practice. There is a more efficient way to be more convincing. Here is a link to a website that might be of some help to you..
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/extreme-fear/201005/top-ten-secrets-effective-liars
I think you need more practice. There is a more efficient way to be more convincing. Here is a link to a website that might be of some help to you..
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/extreme-fear/201005/top-ten-secrets-effective-liars
Some people in the world believe that debunking doesn't require you to physically go out and do work, take measurements, experiment, etc. Some believe that their word is enough proof. What I admire about you, Einstein, is that you are DOING just that. Experimenting. Keep up the good work and always feel free to share. Who cares what others think?
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
Yeah, we have lots of armchair physicists. But the real stuff is much more fascinating to play with.
If anybody does figure out how objects and people lose height in the Mystery Spot, then it would probably be classified. Which makes sense. That would explain all the disinformation that is being shoved in front of everybody.
If anybody does figure out how objects and people lose height in the Mystery Spot, then it would probably be classified. Which makes sense. That would explain all the disinformation that is being shoved in front of everybody.
I find I am at odds with two of the most idealistic* persons on this forum. Oh dear, what ever shall I do.
I have no need to lie to make my point. If you think it is necessary or acceptable to use lies to make a point, what does that say about you.
I don't rely on "my word". I rely on the substantiative words of those that taught the concepts to me.
Sharing things on an alt-sci web site is what the site is there for. Not caring what others think is not what you seem to practice. You get offended when someone challenges your point of view. I propose, if you want to post frivolous statements, and not be challenged on the absurdity of the claims, post them on the web site you own, where you can control the perception, that your statement is, in any way, close to reality. You don't need worry about being challenged by me there. I find the site to be, uniquely inane. You are free to and I would encourage you to, post anything you want to here but, do not expect them to not be scrutinized.
I went to the mystery spot in Ohio."God was it boring".But what I did notice, is that there was some form of geo-magnetism at work.The kid that gave the tour, was so board, and would occasionally throw rocks in this little house that the guided tour was through.Cheese, wine and beef jerky country there, not far from Lake Erie.Pinter
Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
The picture isn't really saying anything.He has failed to independently produce comparison pictures showing how changing the background reference points can alter an objects size that can be recorded with a camera.
I'm saying it can't be done outside one of these anomaly areas. And so far no one has proved me wrong.
Real research and truth means doing it yourself, in person. A person would have no doubt in their minds if they found out themselves. Like @Einstein said, talk is cheap. It's easy to sit on a chair and say this is true and that is true and accuse others of being blatantly wrong, but without going out and measuring yourself, how do you really know the truth?
General conversation doesn't require proof. It's the simple exchange of ideas. We don't sit at a bar and ask people to show academic papers when having a simple discussion, but if one is going to continually call others wrong, perhaps that's when their own "proof" would benefit the conversation. And there's no better proof then REAL DATA done by the person doing the accusing. Real. Pure. Raw. Data....all done in person. Zero doubt.
Einstein would do it if he were closer to it! I'll do it here in Florida, eventually!!! In fact, I'll be consulting Einstein ahead of time.
General conversation doesn't require proof. It's the simple exchange of ideas. We don't sit at a bar and ask people to show academic papers when having a simple discussion, but if one is going to continually call others wrong, perhaps that's when their own "proof" would benefit the conversation. And there's no better proof then REAL DATA done by the person doing the accusing. Real. Pure. Raw. Data....all done in person. Zero doubt.
Einstein would do it if he were closer to it! I'll do it here in Florida, eventually!!! In fact, I'll be consulting Einstein ahead of time.
Right' date=' a picture can't speak...but a picture is worth a thousand words.
I offer one more picture. I doubt it will make any difference to you but, I hope others will see a difference.
It is easy to "make it appear' date=' as it does" in these areas but, it is only an optical illusion.I AM NOT going to bother to "build" a replica to "prove you wrong". You are not that important to me.If you truly believe that a person can "physically" change their size by several inches by some gravitational difference between two points only a few feet apart... then you have absolutely graduated from ignorant. One more picture for you and then I'm done with you.Summary:1. Ignorance implies a lack of awareness, while stupidity implies the inability to understand.2. Ignorance can be removed by the acquisition of knowledge, while a stupid person is intrinsically so, and therefore difficult to reform.3. Ignorance is caused by the circumstances of ones life, whereas stupidity is due to an attitude problem or mental deficiency in the person concerned.4. While the reasons of ignorance are universally the same, stupidity is often defined by ones perception of what comprises stupidity.[url']http://www.differencebetween.net/language/difference-between-ignorance-and-stupidity/[/url]
Really? As in;
How do you know? Have you gone out in the world and measured it for yourself? Have you collected enough
to differentiate between what would be considered "strong" and "weak"?
How are you qualified to make that determination? Do you hold a degree in psychology or another related discipline?
http://timetravelinstitute.com/threads/precognition-or-psychic-ability-or-just-plain-weird.10188/#post-89258We all have psychic abilities. Some are more developed than others. Sounds like you have a neat gift. You should develop it more. Practice.
I do not have psychic abilities. What gives you the right to claim I' date=' or anyone else, have/has an ability many, including myself, hold a derogatory opinion of? What proof do you have that these alleged psychic abilities exist for anyone? Have you conducted a valid scientific test on anyone, other than yourself?
He's around 70-80 miles away. That's close enough.
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Einstein
Dimensional Traveler
That does appear to be an admission of defeat.But I do have to thank you for your persistence. I got to thinking about this. I now have a working theory on how this phenomena could be real. If length were a standing wave phenomena. Then phase shifting the returning length wave would reduce the amplitude of the combined wave. The only thing is that length waves would have to exist in null time. So anything moving or changing in null time would appear to be instantaneous to us. And if you phase shift the returning length wave to 180 degrees, length becomes zero. So any device that affects length this way could be considered to be a wormhole generator or a matter transporter. So this phenomena could be an actual physical manifestation of an orthogonal direction in time. Probably the basis for UFO propulsion.
And this is all your fault. If you hadn't been so persistent in trying to convince me this was an illusion, I would never have figured it out. All I can say is I hope you really aren't a CIA agent. Because if you are and your supervisor reads this, then you are probably going to get fired. This is definitely one instance where disinformation has backfired.
PS: Hush money might keep me from blabbing this all over the internet.
Henry Stone
Chrono Cadet
This discussion reminds me of my work with 3rd graders. I'm tempted to ask people to tone down the namecalling, but I feel it might end up being me called names instead. The evidence from the mystery spot is flimsy, and as stated before, anything with such magical powers would instantly be locked away by now by government or shady corporations trying to do Stuff with it. It exists in captivity or in secret, not in the wild and open. That it would be nothing but a tourist attraction(!!) is an utterly obscene thought. Thereby not said that none of the effects may exist out there, but this is a definite "I Want To Believe" moment. That said, Gpa, if you want to debunk things, you gotta do better than that. Your evidence is great if talking to a non-believer ("yeah, makes sense,"), but you're not talking to non-believers. There's a reason TV isn't completely flooded with MythBusters clones; busting a myth so that True Believers will accept the findings is damn hard work!
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