"The future ain't what it used to be."

Original "Yareisa" IRC Conversation with TimeTravel_0, October 2000

Darby

Timekeeper
In about 2005 I was able to verify that the following IRC conversation did, in fact, take place on 14-OCT-2000. It took me several years to get Yareisa to even acknowledge my emails to her, let alone get her to post on Anomalies about her contact with TimeTravel_0. Yareisa was reluctant to post because her take on TTO/Titor was that he was a creap and she didn't want anything to do with him. Her opinion was based on subsequent private contacts with him over the couple of weeks following 14-OCT-2000. Rick Donaldson was the member of our research team who received the anonymous email with the log attached.

 


As you read the conversation remember what I said about his drinking of adult beverages. Long before he spills the beans you will likely be able to tell from his typing that he's drunk. Down below when he says, "But Im a little pissed right now. Is that still the right word?" remember he's talking to two Englishmen and an English woman. He's pissed (English - drunk) not pissed-off (American - angry). Everyone on the chat missed it or just chose not to respond.



~Darby


John Titor :: IRC Discussion Log

These logs, sent to the Anomalies network from an unnamed source, proport to show a late night conversation between the Time Traveler John and several other individuals on IRC.

We hope you enjoy these, and thanks for the information (you know who you are!.

14 October 2000

8TimeTravel_0 has joined the conversation.

Yareisa : even now I still change my opinions, there is no definitive

G° : well, I'm not completely on the same wavelength as you and apollo,

but

I like it here.

Yareisa : hi time

G° : I will be back

G° : hi time T

Yareisa : good, we like you

TimeTravel_0 : greetings

G° : thanks

Yareisa : yw

Yareisa : you've been initiated G!

G° : sorry I can't stop to chat Time, but it's way past my bed time

G° : I have?

TimeTravel_0 : no problem

Yareisa : oh yes...I'll make sure you have plenty of experience!

Yareisa : lol

G° : thanks... I think. LOL ~)

Yareisa : well I have been awake for 24 hours!

G° : oh what the heck. maybe I will stop and introduce myself to time....

Yareisa : good! new I could persuade you!

Yareisa : knew

G° : LOL

TimeTravel_0 : please...and then myself.

G° : Hi TT, my name is steve, but call me G

G° : I'm 30, male from England

G° : and you?

TimeTravel_0 : My name is John. Im 38 and a time traveler from w:st="on">Florida.

G° : Oh, and my PC could crash at any time, so I'll say goodnight now in

case it goes again

Yareisa : alright, goodnight G

G° : which time are you from?

TimeTravel_0 : Goodnight.

TimeTravel_0 : 2036

G° : g'night

G° : is it a good year?

TimeTravel_0 : For me...yes.

G° : it's not far to come?

TimeTravel_0 : Thats right.

Yareisa : do you want me to do my intro piece?

G° : so you have been born as well. That could be confusing. no problem

with

there being two of you at the same time then?

G° : yes please Y

TimeTravel_0 : Not at all. In fact the "me" on this world line is

upstairs

alseep.

TimeTravel_0 : Hes 2

Yareisa : ty I'm Yareisa, you can call me yar, most do 39 w:st="on">Lincoln, UK

G° : upstairs? in your house?

G° : yar, ok.

Yareisa : or ok yar!

G° : lol. I was thinking that... lol

TimeTravel_0 : Not my house. Im just visiting.

G° : tonight? or longer term than that?

TimeTravel_0 : I've been here for about 3 months.

G° : any reason? if you don't mind me asking... I'm interested is all...

TimeTravel_0 : I'll answer any question you have. I don;t expect you to

believe me anyway.

TimeTravel_0 : Theres a picture of my time machine on my profile.

G° : LOL good. I'd really think you were mad if you did...

TimeTravel_0 : Your reaction is typical.

TimeTravel_0 : Im used to it.

G° : someone invented a time machine by 2036?

TimeTravel_0 : What would you do if you really met a time travlere anyway?

G° : what I'm doing now

Yareisa : what would you do if you met an alien?

TimeTravel_0 : Yes...in fact the major breakthrough happens at CERN in

about

a year.

G° : cern? whats that?

TimeTravel_0 : The creation of microsigularities.

Yareisa : particle accelerator?

TimeTravel_0 : Yes!

TimeTravel_0 : You know of it?

Yareisa : yes a little

TimeTravel_0 : Most people here in the w:st="on">US have no idea what Im talking

about.

Yareisa : they go round until they hit each other don't they

G° : lol

TimeTravel_0 : Yes. High speed proton acceleration.

G° : that about sums an incredibly complex bit of kit in one

sentence... but

yes

TimeTravel_0 : Ill be happy to go into detail but most people regret it.

Yareisa : go on, we'll scream when we can't handle anymore!

G° : whats the discovery? a new particle or something?

TimeTravel_0 : The information has been out for quite a while.

TimeTravel_0 : CERN is planning to start some very high energy experiments

soon.

TimeTravel_0 : There has been some contoversy ...

TimeTravel_0 : over the damgers of it.

G° : is antimatter involved?

TimeTravel_0 : SOme are concerned it might be quite hazardous.

TimeTravel_0 : No...

Yareisa : wasn't there something about creating a black hole

TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!

TimeTravel_0 : You've heard of it.

Yareisa : yes

TimeTravel_0 : Actually...

Yareisa : a little

G° : me too

TimeTravel_0 : its a black hole about the size of an electron.

TimeTravel_0 : Im impressed.

TimeTravel_0 : Where are you both from?

TimeTravel_0 : England?

G° : England

Yareisa : yes

G° : but different bits

Yareisa : certainly different bits!

G° : but next door according to US geography

TimeTravel_0 : Being from 2036...Im not as ignorant as my colonial

countrymen.

G° : so are you staying with your parents then, whilst your here?

TimeTravel_0 : Yes.

G° : oh come on, it's not going to change that much in 30 odd years.. LOL

TimeTravel_0 : Really.

G° : sorry, Brit joke

G° : how did they take it? or have you not told them? Your parents?

TimeTravel_0 : I have to admit... your both quite polite.

TimeTravel_0 : Oh they know.

G° : hey, the sign on the door says show respect and keep an open mind

doesn't it?

Yareisa : I'm polite because I understand what its like to be ridiculed

TimeTravel_0 : Im here because of a promise to my grandfather in 1975.

Yareisa : true G

G° : I've lived 53 lives on earth before this one. think everyone beleives

me when i say that?

TimeTravel_0 : I appreciate that but I also know Im more entertaining than

anything else.

TimeTravel_0 : I don't discount anything.

G° : LOL

G° : the truly mad wouldn't realise they were ... excentric?

TimeTravel_0 : You are more right than you know.

G° : the faxct that you don't expect to be believed has to be a plus

point..

G° : sorry go on. your grandfather?

TimeTravel_0 : I find it quite intersting.

TimeTravel_0 : Yes.

TimeTravel_0 : I started in 2036, went back to 1975 and then came forward

to

2000...now.

TimeTravel_0 : Did you see the picture of my machine?

Yareisa : it wasn't there when I looked

TimeTravel_0 : If you click on the picture...it takes you to another page.

I have 3 pictures posted.

Yareisa : k just doing

G° : yeah. is it in a cool car?

TimeTravel_0 : A good car for 1975.

TimeTravel_0 : The distortion machine is in a 4 wheel drive now.

G° : how come from then? was it kept in good condition til 2036?

TimeTravel_0 : Sorry...time machine.

TimeTravel_0 : I was sent back to 1975 to get a computer.

TimeTravel_0 : Its an IBM model 5110.

TimeTravel_0 : My grandfather worked on it.

G° : because...?

TimeTravel_0 : Thats why I was sent.

TimeTravel_0 : We need it in 2036 to recode UNIX which dies in 2038.

G° : who needed a 5110? and why?

G° : lost me there. don't enough about computers

TimeTravel_0 : the 5110 is able to read the old IBM mainframe code.

TimeTravel_0 : Its the first protable computer produced by IBM.

TimeTravel_0 : Actually its about the size of a small table.

TimeTravel_0 : We need on in 2036.

G° : so have you tried changing the past yet? or have you found that

everything you do..

G° : has already been done?

TimeTravel_0 : Hmmm...physics.

TimeTravel_0 : Actually... world lines are not fixed.

TimeTravel_0 : They are all different.

TimeTravel_0 : There is no one "time".

G° : but you have a past... you remember things, and if one changes...?

TimeTravel_0 : Yes...

TimeTravel_0 : but they are different.

TimeTravel_0 : The fact that I am here changes this world line.

G° : so you havn't tried mucking with anything?

TimeTravel_0 : No...but I could.

TimeTravel_0 : Its just not that moral in my opinion.

TimeTravel_0 : Besides...Im not here for that.

G° : thing is, you might not have changed anything because you already

were

here

TimeTravel_0 : Thats right!!!

TimeTravel_0 : Very good.

TimeTravel_0 : In fact..I've noticed samll changes.

G° : I mean you upstairs asleep wouldn't have known if you now was

downstairs

G° : you have? thats what i was getting it

TimeTravel_0 : No...he knows me.

TimeTravel_0 : Yes...small changes.

G° : care to give an example?

TimeTravel_0 : Sure...

TimeTravel_0 : Football....(sorry) games that were lost that should have

been won.

TimeTravel_0 : Incidental news stories that havent happened.

TimeTravel_0 : Books not written.

TimeTravel_0 : Small stuff like that.

G° : wow. surely that can't be anything to do with you?

TimeTravel_0 : No.

TimeTravel_0 : By definition, this world line is not the same as mine.

G° : so how come do you think?

TimeTravel_0 : Physics.

TimeTravel_0 : Have you ever been in a room that has mirrors on all the

walls?

G° : you with the infinate worlds with infinate possibilities theory then?

TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!

TimeTravel_0 : Multipole world theory is correct.

G° : like sliders

TimeTravel_0 : Sliders?

G° : tv show

G° : before your time... LOL

TimeTravel_0 : Hmmm...havent seent hat one.

G° : hmmm. I must admit, that theory has always bothered me

TimeTravel_0 : Have you heard of Schrodinger's cat?

G° : I mean, why bother? why create all these slightly different

worlds? no

offence to you, just never liked it.

Yareisa : yes

G° : yes, talking about it the other day

TimeTravel_0 : Well...there's a little joke in 2036.

G° : can't remember though

TimeTravel_0 : If the cat had a distortion machine (time) he may not be in

the box at all.

G° : oh yeah, that was it... LOL

G° : ( i was wondering if you were still ther Yar)

Yareisa : yes, deep in though

Yareisa : thought

G° : sorry, I have to call you Yareisa, I don't like yar....

Yareisa : ok!

G° : so. what can we do for you tonight TT? How come your here?

TimeTravel_0 : I enjoy the "paranormal" chat rooms for 2 reasons.

TimeTravel_0 : 1. I find the people here are more open to ideas.

TimeTravel_0 : 2. I find it ironic that when what they are looking for

falls

in their lap, they can't believe it.

G° : sorry you've been doing all the talking....

8wyrmkin_37 has joined the conversation.

TimeTravel_0 : Its okay,

wyrmkin_37 : hello to room

TimeTravel_0 : I learn a lot from you too.

G° : hi wyrm

Yareisa : hi wyrm

wyrmkin_37 : hey

G° : so who owns the machine TT?

G° : who do you work for?

TimeTravel_0 : The military.

TimeTravel_0 : Im a soldier.

TimeTravel_0 : But civilan time travle is not far off.

G° : do they know your in the year 2000 chatting to us when you should be

returning with the 5110?

TimeTravel_0 : Good question!!!

G° : LOL How would they know?

G° : unless your machine records jumps?

TimeTravel_0 : No...but i will return just seconds after I left from their

point of view.

TimeTravel_0 : I will only age a bit more than expected.

wyrmkin_37 : what matter of singularities?

G° : Imust say, your a very friendly, chatty soldier...

Yareisa : temporal phase shift

Yareisa : oops, thinking aloud again

wyrmkin_37 : anti-matter or dimensional?

TimeTravel_0 : Well...I only fought in the civil war. The military put me

through school and I was qualified for this mission.

TimeTravel_0 : The singularities distort gravity.

TimeTravel_0 : Ill be happy to go through the physics. The basics are

already known.

wyrmkin_37 : please........proceed

Yareisa : please do

TimeTravel_0 : Ok

TimeTravel_0 : In 1967, a physist named Tipler came up with the basic

equations for time travel based on massive rotating cylinders...ever heard

of him?

wyrmkin_37 : in omni?

G° : no, sorry

TimeTravel_0 : no problem...

TimeTravel_0 : are you familiar with black holes and Stephen Halking?

TimeTravel_0 : Sorry...spelling

Yareisa : to some degree, yes

TimeTravel_0 : Ok

wyrmkin_37 : .......a brief history of time

TimeTravel_0 : Yes.

TimeTravel_0 : Black holes distort gravity...which distorts time.

wyrmkin_37 : theory

TimeTravel_0 : At there center is a singularity.

G° : yeah, with you so far

TimeTravel_0 : No...it is proved.

TimeTravel_0 : In 1969, science invented a clock sensitive enough to show

the time difference in a multiple sotry building.

wyrmkin_37 : kewl

TimeTravel_0 : On the first floor...time runs slower due to gravity.

TimeTravel_0 : Clser to the center of the Earth.

wyrmkin_37 : get outa here

G° : also the 2 clocks, one in a plane that flew off and came back

different

to the other one

TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!

G° : ok

wyrmkin_37 : gravitation

TimeTravel_0 : The effect is magnified greatly in a black hole.

TimeTravel_0 : As it turns out...

TimeTravel_0 : If you encounter a black hole that is spinning and has an

electrified field, you will not be killed passing through its massive

gravitational fiuelds.

TimeTravel_0 : regreting asking yet>

Yareisa : no

TimeTravel_0 : Ok

wyrmkin_37 : no

Yareisa : I'm hooked

TimeTravel_0 : In about a year...

G° : is this the omeg point theory?

G° : omega?

TimeTravel_0 : CERN will discover some very odd things as a result of

their

high energy experiments.

TimeTravel_0 : in about a year.

TimeTravel_0 : from your point of view.

wyrmkin_37 : cern?

TimeTravel_0 : in Geneva.

Yareisa : particle accelerator

wyrmkin_37 : oh

TimeTravel_0 : They will accidently create microsingularities.

G° : makes things go round and hit each other...

TimeTravel_0 : Which will evaporate very quickly.

wyrmkin_37 : one in texas?

TimeTravel_0 : and create a massive ammount of X-ray and Gamma rays.

TimeTravel_0 : It will puzzle them for a while.

TimeTravel_0 : Until they figure out how to add and elcrtical charge and

capture these strange odd and massive particles in a magnetic field.

wyrmkin_37 : they shoot electrons at the speed of light.......see what

they

bust up into

TimeTravel_0 : Yes.

G° : still with you...

wyrmkin_37 : quarks

TimeTravel_0 : If you bombard a singularity with electrons...

TimeTravel_0 : you can alter the size of its event horizon.

TimeTravel_0 : and thus its gravitational field.

TimeTravel_0 : By overlapping these fileds from two singularities...

TimeTravel_0 : you can travel forward and backward through time.

TimeTravel_0 : Its actuallyu quyite simple.

wyrmkin_37 : i follow now

TimeTravel_0 : Thats noit the hard part.

G° : didn't tipler say there was no event horizon?

TimeTravel_0 : No..he said it was possible to approach a massive

gravitationl field from certain angles and not get squished.

G° : oh, sorry

wyrmkin_37 : lol

TimeTravel_0 : Actually...Im not really a physisit.

G° : but you know all about this stuff... is that why you were picked?

TimeTravel_0 : I specialize in 20th century history and my grandfather

builds computers.

wyrmkin_37 : what base?

TimeTravel_0 : Hmmm....you drive a car and know how to change the oil

don;t

you?

TimeTravel_0 : I am based in Tampa Fl.

G° : actually, only just.. LOL

wyrmkin_37 : chas, afb

TimeTravel_0 : McDill

wyrmkin_37 : kewl

G° : sorry?

G° : in english?

wyrmkin_37 : zoomies

Yareisa : thats english?!

G° : you airforce wyrm?

wyrmkin_37 : yes

G° : your not working on a time machine are you?

G° : come here for guidance...

wyrmkin_37 : no just came in for chat

TimeTravel_0 : Altering gravity is not the hard part.

G° : LOL

Yareisa : go on...

TimeTravel_0 : Detecting gravity is the hard part.

TimeTravel_0 : I will tell you a littlke story.

TimeTravel_0 : When time travel was invented.

TimeTravel_0 : They built prototypes that would go back in time for a

split

second and then return.

TimeTravel_0 : They had sensors and cameras on them.

TimeTravel_0 : ...and they never returned.

G° : and forwards as well? how about a single jump forwards?

TimeTravel_0 : It was later discovered that the machines were ending up

about 15 miles away and 3000 fett in the air.

TimeTravel_0 : feet

G° : doh!

TimeTravel_0 : The Earth was rotating away from them.

wyrmkin_37 : synchroniaztion please

TimeTravel_0 : A system had to be invented that would "hold" the machine

to

the Earth.

TimeTravel_0 : Its called VGL.

TimeTravel_0 : Its based on very sensative clocks and gravity sensors.

TimeTravel_0 : It stops the time distortion machine if radical changes in

gravity are detected.

wyrmkin_37 : mechanical or electronic clocks

TimeTravel_0 : You wouldn't want to end up inside a mountain or under

water...would you?

TimeTravel_0 : Cesium.

wyrmkin_37 : oh

G° : isn't all this classified? surely your suppoed to keep it secret

whilst

in the past?

TimeTravel_0 : LOL!!!

TimeTravel_0 : I know you think Im nuts...come on.

TimeTravel_0 : Who would believe me?

G° : just asking?

TimeTravel_0 : It my best defense.

wyrmkin_37 : isnt celsium a higher class of quartz? dont know

G° : but we don't have long to find out if you are or not

TimeTravel_0 : Besides...do you know how big a hole 2 sigularites make

when

their magnetic filed colpases?

G° : won't be long before CERN (?) make the discovery

TimeTravel_0 : Thats right.

G° : no

TimeTravel_0 : Welll....either do I. But I don;t want to know.

G° : LOL

wyrmkin_37 : i read omni since it came out and i do want to know

G° : maybe I'll pass on the theory to someone who does their own

experiment

and... BANG!

wyrmkin_37 : lol

TimeTravel_0 : I've been trying.

G° : any joy?

TimeTravel_0 : But Im the crazy yank

wyrmkin_37 : lmao

G° : What do you expect? you didn't tell them you from the future did you?

TimeTravel_0 : You might be interested in this...

G° : if you really wanted to, you should have just passed on the theory

G° : go on....

TimeTravel_0 : Its very hard to convince someone you travel in time unless

you're related to them.

G° : or know something that will happen...

TimeTravel_0 : Good point...but you'de be surprised.

G° : not that I'm asking you to tell me something, cos I don't want you to

TimeTravel_0 : They usually think its your fault.

G° : LOL

G° : bummer...

wyrmkin_37 : very interesting

TimeTravel_0 : That's why I love these chat rooms.

wyrmkin_37 : me too

TimeTravel_0 : I know that nothing I say will make a bit of difference.

wyrmkin_37 : i can drink my jack and coke and learn a few things

G° : not true.. this is the place where you can make a difference.

TimeTravel_0 : Im not feeling sorry for myself.

TimeTravel_0 : Im actually learning to like the people here.

TimeTravel_0 : You have a very bad reputaion in 2036.

wyrmkin_37 : TT........who me?

TimeTravel_0 : lol...in general.

wyrmkin_37 : heard that

G° : how about those 80's lot though. they must be worse...

TimeTravel_0 : Don't get me started.

G° : LOL

TimeTravel_0 : At least your commercials and video games have gotten

beeter

through the years.

G° : and as for the 70's! Sheesh!

wyrmkin_37 : 60's were cool

TimeTravel_0 : Generaly... this period is thought of as the time when they

had it all and squanderd it.

TimeTravel_0 : You diserve your fate.

wyrmkin_37 : but fun was had

TimeTravel_0 : That's true.

TimeTravel_0 : Can I ask you brits a question?

G° : sure

Yareisa : yeah sure

G° : shoot

TimeTravel_0 : When I was a kid...back in 2012...

G° : a good year for cyberpunk...

TimeTravel_0 : I used to watch a DVD called UFO that was made in England.

TimeTravel_0 : Ever heard of it?

G° : oops no, that was 2030, sorry

G° : the tv series? 70's?

wyrmkin_37 : i saw it on regular tv

TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!

TimeTravel_0 : You've seen it?

Yareisa : oh yes I remember that one

TimeTravel_0 : Wow...we do have something in common.

G° : yeah, dreadful outfits!

TimeTravel_0 : No one has heard of it here.

Yareisa : straker wasn't it

G° : and hairstyles!

TimeTravel_0 : I loved that show!

G° : so TT, there is something you can tell me

TimeTravel_0 : Yes?

G° : what happens in December 2012?

wyrmkin_37 : i saw it the good guys were called shadow?

G° : anything?

TimeTravel_0 : Ahhh..the acient miayn prohecies.

G° : the very same

TimeTravel_0 :

wyrmkin_37 : mayans

 


TimeTravel_0 : sorry


 


wyrmkin_37 : ?


 


TimeTravel_0 : Nothing happens...but there is a nuclear war in 2015.


 


G° : bugger


 


TimeTravel_0 : Its not that bad.


 


TimeTravel_0 : The bombs are much cleaner.


 


G° : i guess not


 


wyrmkin_37 : china and russia?


 


TimeTravel_0 : There's a civial war in the US.


 


wyrmkin_37 : whoa?


 


TimeTravel_0 : Russian launches against China, Europe and the US.


 


G° : it was bound to happen sooner or later...


 


TimeTravel_0 : Can;t you see it coming?


 


G° : whatamistaka to maka!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Does anyone read history anymore?


 


wyrmkin_37 : i saw russia and china but not usa


 


TimeTravel_0 : From my point of view...Russia helps us. We win.


 


G° : how so?


 


TimeTravel_0 : But Im a little pissed right now. Is that still the right


 


word?


 


wyrmkin_37 : wheat, money........lets make friends


 


G° : ?


 


TimeTravel_0 : The civil war in the US has two sides.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I fought on one side.


 


G° : they usualy do


 


wyrmkin_37 : proceed sir................


 


TimeTravel_0 : The other side got nuked by Russia.


 


G° : i see


 


G° : not north and south again was it?


 


TimeTravel_0 : In 2036, they are our largets trading partner.


 


TimeTravel_0 : No...more like city angainst country.'


 


wyrmkin_37 : majorities against minorities.......


 


TimeTravel_0 : Yes.


 


TimeTravel_0 : You know...guns versus no guns.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Power versus no power.


 


wyrmkin_37 : time to pour another jack and coke


 


TimeTravel_0 : Un troops versus no UN troops.


 


G° : well, it's been interesting talking to you John, but it's way past my


 


bedtime...


 


Yareisa : what...I've been up 24 hours!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Sleep well.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Youve been very polite.


 


G° : look me up when you get back to 2036 will you?


 


TimeTravel_0 : I will try.


 


G° : if i'm still here


 


TimeTravel_0 : Go north.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Invest in hydrogen fuel cells


 


G° : goodnight Yareisa


 


Yareisa : goodnight G


 


Yareisa : thanks for staying up so early!


 


G° : thanks again TT, goodnight


 


G° : LOL


 


TimeTravel_0 : good night


 


G° : see you again soon


 


Yareisa : yup


 


TimeTravel_0 : Ill be here


 


TimeTravel_0 : Think up some good questions


 


G° puts on his coat and trudges out...


 


Yareisa : bye G


 


8G° has left the conversation.


 


Yareisa : I've given up going to bed now, might as well keep going!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Time is relative.


 


TimeTravel_0 : But sleep....


 


Yareisa : forgotten what sleep is!


 


TimeTravel_0 : What do you do for a living?


 


Yareisa : by day...web site design


 


TimeTravel_0 : Is your family close to you?


 


Yareisa : no


 


TimeTravel_0 : That's the one thing I will never understand about this


 


time.


 


Yareisa : whats that


 


TimeTravel_0 : Don;t you feel alone without them?


 


Yareisa : not really, I'm used to being alone


 


TimeTravel_0 : Its very diffrent in the future.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I can't imagine being without my family.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I don;t know if I should pity or admire you.


 


Yareisa : I'm not sure either!


 


8wyrmkin_37 has returned.


 


Yareisa : wb


 


wyrmkin_37 : hello folks


 


TimeTravel_0 : greetings


 


Yareisa : I am known as a Warrior, I'm used to fighting to survive


 


wyrmkin_37 : been there


 


TimeTravel_0 : In the future, life is organized around the family.


 


wyrmkin_37 : good


 


TimeTravel_0 : and the community.


 


Yareisa : then it looks like I have a problem!


 


TimeTravel_0 : 'I can;t imagine what it's like to live alone.


 


Yareisa : I rather like it actually


 


TimeTravel_0 : If I may ask...why?


 


Yareisa : I can do what I choose, when I choose without having to answer


 


to


 


anyone


 


TimeTravel_0 : What about it appeals to you?


 


wyrmkin_37 : later folks


 


8wyrmkin_37 has left the conversation.


 


TimeTravel_0 : good night


 


Yareisa : Sometimes I miss not having company


 


Yareisa : but I'm very independant


 


TimeTravel_0 : Your answer is typical of the people of your time.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Do you feel you would be hindered by "answerinfg? to


 


someone?


 


TimeTravel_0 : What does that mean?


 


Yareisa : I was hindered, that is why I evicted my husband


 


TimeTravel_0 : Please explain.


 


Yareisa : I am a deeply spiritual person, I needed to grow, to expand, and


 


he stopped me


 


TimeTravel_0 : How...if its not too personal.


 


Yareisa : he was a control freak, I had to do what he told me to do etc


 


TimeTravel_0 : I think you would like the future.


 


Yareisa : why is that


 


TimeTravel_0 : Its a common complainyt that people feel hindered.


 


TimeTravel_0 : In the future, life is more challenging.


 


Yareisa : is it more spiritual?


 


TimeTravel_0 : There is little room for petty problems.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Yes!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Mystery returns to existance.


 


Yareisa : beyond the human


 


TimeTravel_0 : There are fewer luxuries but life is more enjoyable.


 


Yareisa : I never like luxuries anyway


 


Yareisa : I live basically


 


Yareisa : do you consider yourself human


 


TimeTravel_0 : I wish I could show you the time machine and give you hope.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Yes.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I am very different from you.


 


Yareisa : in what way


 


TimeTravel_0 : My life is very different.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I harbor a ccertain ammount of anger toward this time.


 


Yareisa : why


 


TimeTravel_0 : I see an entire population of people who are sleeping.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I fell in love once and she passed away.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I blame you for her death.


 


Yareisa : why


 


TimeTravel_0 : She died of brain cancer.


 


TimeTravel_0 : You may find this interesting.


 


TimeTravel_0 : WHen I was training for "time travel"...


 


TimeTravel_0 : ...a great deal of what we did was pyscholgical training.


 


TimeTravel_0 : In one of our exercises...we had to go back in time and


 


convince "ourselves" to do something we regretted not doing in our own


 


life.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I told myself to get married before she died.


 


TimeTravel_0 : SOmething I was unable to do.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I hate you for that.


 


Yareisa : hate me personally?


 


TimeTravel_0 : Sorry.... I don;t hate you.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I mean this time.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Jacksonville Fl took a direct hit.


 


TimeTravel_0 : The radiation killed her.


 


Yareisa : I cannot say sorry for something that hasn't happened yet, but I


 


am sorry


 


TimeTravel_0 : I talk too much


 


Yareisa : and I don't talk enough


 


TimeTravel_0 : I just wish things didn;t have to happen athey way they


 


will.


 


Yareisa : we cannot change it?


 


TimeTravel_0 : Its too late.


 


Yareisa : I sensed that


 


TimeTravel_0 : I regret what you could have been bot what will result.


 


TimeTravel_0 : not


 


TimeTravel_0 : ...are you drinking?


 


Yareisa : no


 


TimeTravel_0 : I am... orange wine.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I love it.


 


Yareisa : I think my ethereal has taken over, my body has no need for


 


anything more


 


TimeTravel_0 : Are you alone?


 


Yareisa : yes


 


TimeTravel_0 : No children?


 


Yareisa : none


 


TimeTravel_0 : Are you afraid?


 


Yareisa : what of


 


TimeTravel_0 : Being alone?


 


Yareisa : no


 


TimeTravel_0 : I don;t mean to be so perosnal.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I aplogoze.


 


Yareisa : its alright, I'm used to it


 


TimeTravel_0 : To being alone?


 


Yareisa : to being asked personal questions as well!


 


TimeTravel_0 : I appreciate your kindness.


 


Yareisa : ty, but that is my nature


 


TimeTravel_0 : I am familiar with Blue Oyster Cult.


 


Yareisa : oh, you've read my profile?!


 


TimeTravel_0 : I just took a look.


 


TimeTravel_0 : In fact...my father is a big fan.


 


Yareisa : the link to my web site is on there too


 


Yareisa : one of my favourite tracks is, Veterans of the Psychic Wars


 


TimeTravel_0 : Thats quite a webb ste...hold on.


 


Yareisa : k


 


TimeTravel_0 : Im asking my father.


 


TimeTravel_0 : He says thats from "Heavy Metal"?


 


Yareisa : I've got it on a compilation, Workshop of the Telescopes


 


TimeTravel_0 : "Cultosaurus Erectus" is his favorite.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I have no idea what he's taling about.


 


Yareisa : probably best not to, might cause a glitch in the space time


 


contimuum!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Godzillia?


 


Yareisa : yes thats a good one


 


TimeTravel_0 : Hes lauging.


 


TimeTravel_0 : You wacky 20th century freaks.


 


Yareisa : Don't Fear The Reaper is good too, a classic


 


Yareisa : so do I presume the aliens don't come in 2012 then?


 


TimeTravel_0 : Noty that Im aware of.


 


TimeTravel_0 : However...there are plenty of things that will get your


 


attention by 2012.


 


Yareisa : such as...can you say?


 


TimeTravel_0 : My father has a question.


 


Yareisa : go on


 


TimeTravel_0 : What do you think of "club Ninja"? I have no idea what


 


that


 


is.


 


Yareisa : I haven't heard that one


 


Yareisa : I've got Dancing in the ruins on the compilation


 


TimeTravel_0 : He says it was one of their last CDs.


 


Yareisa : yes, then there is Imaginos


 


Yareisa : I've just started to collect them again, used to have some


 


albums,


 


getting CD's now


 


TimeTravel_0 : Revolutoin by night? What's that.


 


Yareisa : another album


 


TimeTravel_0 : I see.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Perhaps you should talk to my father.


 


Yareisa : I could get confused!


 


Yareisa : Actually, I will have to go soon, its nearly 6 in the morning


 


here...


 


Yareisa : I got up at 5 in the morning on Friday


 


TimeTravel_0 : I hope to talk to yoiu again.


 


Yareisa : I would like that


 


TimeTravel_0 : Cheer up.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Things get better.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Get some sleep.


 


Yareisa : I will!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Good night.


 


Yareisa : good night


 


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8TimeTravel_0 has joined the conversation.

Yareisa : even now I still change my opinions, there is no definitive

G° : well, I'm not completely on the same wavelength as you and apollo,

but

I like it here.

Yareisa : hi time

G° : I will be back

G° : hi time T

Yareisa : good, we like you

TimeTravel_0 : greetings

G° : thanks

Yareisa : yw

Yareisa : you've been initiated G!

G° : sorry I can't stop to chat Time, but it's way past my bed time

G° : I have?

TimeTravel_0 : no problem

Yareisa : oh yes...I'll make sure you have plenty of experience!

Yareisa : lol

G° : thanks... I think. LOL ~)

Yareisa : well I have been awake for 24 hours!

G° : oh what the heck. maybe I will stop and introduce myself to time....

Yareisa : good! new I could persuade you!

Yareisa : knew

G° : LOL

TimeTravel_0 : please...and then myself.

G° : Hi TT, my name is steve, but call me G

G° : I'm 30, male from England

G° : and you?

TimeTravel_0 : My name is John. Im 38 and a time traveler from w:st="on">Florida.

G° : Oh, and my PC could crash at any time, so I'll say goodnight now in

case it goes again

Yareisa : alright, goodnight G

G° : which time are you from?

TimeTravel_0 : Goodnight.

TimeTravel_0 : 2036

G° : g'night

G° : is it a good year?

TimeTravel_0 : For me...yes.

G° : it's not far to come?

TimeTravel_0 : Thats right.

Yareisa : do you want me to do my intro piece?

G° : so you have been born as well. That could be confusing. no problem

with

there being two of you at the same time then?

G° : yes please Y

TimeTravel_0 : Not at all. In fact the "me" on this world line is

upstairs

alseep.

TimeTravel_0 : Hes 2

Yareisa : ty I'm Yareisa, you can call me yar, most do 39 w:st="on">Lincoln, UK

G° : upstairs? in your house?

G° : yar, ok.

Yareisa : or ok yar!

G° : lol. I was thinking that... lol

TimeTravel_0 : Not my house. Im just visiting.

G° : tonight? or longer term than that?

TimeTravel_0 : I've been here for about 3 months.

G° : any reason? if you don't mind me asking... I'm interested is all...

TimeTravel_0 : I'll answer any question you have. I don;t expect you to

believe me anyway.

TimeTravel_0 : Theres a picture of my time machine on my profile.

G° : LOL good. I'd really think you were mad if you did...

TimeTravel_0 : Your reaction is typical.

TimeTravel_0 : Im used to it.

G° : someone invented a time machine by 2036?

TimeTravel_0 : What would you do if you really met a time travlere anyway?

G° : what I'm doing now

Yareisa : what would you do if you met an alien?

TimeTravel_0 : Yes...in fact the major breakthrough happens at CERN in

about

a year.

G° : cern? whats that?

TimeTravel_0 : The creation of microsigularities.

Yareisa : particle accelerator?

TimeTravel_0 : Yes!

TimeTravel_0 : You know of it?

Yareisa : yes a little

TimeTravel_0 : Most people here in the w:st="on">US have no idea what Im talking

about.

Yareisa : they go round until they hit each other don't they

G° : lol

TimeTravel_0 : Yes. High speed proton acceleration.

G° : that about sums an incredibly complex bit of kit in one

sentence... but

yes

TimeTravel_0 : Ill be happy to go into detail but most people regret it.

Yareisa : go on, we'll scream when we can't handle anymore!

G° : whats the discovery? a new particle or something?

TimeTravel_0 : The information has been out for quite a while.

TimeTravel_0 : CERN is planning to start some very high energy experiments

soon.

TimeTravel_0 : There has been some contoversy ...

TimeTravel_0 : over the damgers of it.

G° : is antimatter involved?

TimeTravel_0 : SOme are concerned it might be quite hazardous.

TimeTravel_0 : No...

Yareisa : wasn't there something about creating a black hole

TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!

TimeTravel_0 : You've heard of it.

Yareisa : yes

TimeTravel_0 : Actually...

Yareisa : a little

G° : me too

TimeTravel_0 : its a black hole about the size of an electron.

TimeTravel_0 : Im impressed.

TimeTravel_0 : Where are you both from?

TimeTravel_0 : England?

G° : England

Yareisa : yes

G° : but different bits

Yareisa : certainly different bits!

G° : but next door according to US geography

TimeTravel_0 : Being from 2036...Im not as ignorant as my colonial

countrymen.

G° : so are you staying with your parents then, whilst your here?

TimeTravel_0 : Yes.

G° : oh come on, it's not going to change that much in 30 odd years.. LOL

TimeTravel_0 : Really.

G° : sorry, Brit joke

G° : how did they take it? or have you not told them? Your parents?

TimeTravel_0 : I have to admit... your both quite polite.

TimeTravel_0 : Oh they know.

G° : hey, the sign on the door says show respect and keep an open mind

doesn't it?

Yareisa : I'm polite because I understand what its like to be ridiculed

TimeTravel_0 : Im here because of a promise to my grandfather in 1975.

Yareisa : true G

G° : I've lived 53 lives on earth before this one. think everyone beleives

me when i say that?

TimeTravel_0 : I appreciate that but I also know Im more entertaining than

anything else.

TimeTravel_0 : I don't discount anything.

G° : LOL

G° : the truly mad wouldn't realise they were ... excentric?

TimeTravel_0 : You are more right than you know.

G° : the faxct that you don't expect to be believed has to be a plus

point..

G° : sorry go on. your grandfather?

TimeTravel_0 : I find it quite intersting.

TimeTravel_0 : Yes.

TimeTravel_0 : I started in 2036, went back to 1975 and then came forward

to

2000...now.

TimeTravel_0 : Did you see the picture of my machine?

Yareisa : it wasn't there when I looked

TimeTravel_0 : If you click on the picture...it takes you to another page.

I have 3 pictures posted.

Yareisa : k just doing

G° : yeah. is it in a cool car?

TimeTravel_0 : A good car for 1975.

TimeTravel_0 : The distortion machine is in a 4 wheel drive now.

G° : how come from then? was it kept in good condition til 2036?

TimeTravel_0 : Sorry...time machine.

TimeTravel_0 : I was sent back to 1975 to get a computer.

TimeTravel_0 : Its an IBM model 5110.

TimeTravel_0 : My grandfather worked on it.

G° : because...?

TimeTravel_0 : Thats why I was sent.

TimeTravel_0 : We need it in 2036 to recode UNIX which dies in 2038.

G° : who needed a 5110? and why?

G° : lost me there. don't enough about computers

TimeTravel_0 : the 5110 is able to read the old IBM mainframe code.

TimeTravel_0 : Its the first protable computer produced by IBM.

TimeTravel_0 : Actually its about the size of a small table.

TimeTravel_0 : We need on in 2036.

G° : so have you tried changing the past yet? or have you found that

everything you do..

G° : has already been done?

TimeTravel_0 : Hmmm...physics.

TimeTravel_0 : Actually... world lines are not fixed.

TimeTravel_0 : They are all different.

TimeTravel_0 : There is no one "time".

G° : but you have a past... you remember things, and if one changes...?

TimeTravel_0 : Yes...

TimeTravel_0 : but they are different.

TimeTravel_0 : The fact that I am here changes this world line.

G° : so you havn't tried mucking with anything?

TimeTravel_0 : No...but I could.

TimeTravel_0 : Its just not that moral in my opinion.

TimeTravel_0 : Besides...Im not here for that.

G° : thing is, you might not have changed anything because you already

were

here

TimeTravel_0 : Thats right!!!

TimeTravel_0 : Very good.

TimeTravel_0 : In fact..I've noticed samll changes.

G° : I mean you upstairs asleep wouldn't have known if you now was

downstairs

G° : you have? thats what i was getting it

TimeTravel_0 : No...he knows me.

TimeTravel_0 : Yes...small changes.

G° : care to give an example?

TimeTravel_0 : Sure...

TimeTravel_0 : Football....(sorry) games that were lost that should have

been won.

TimeTravel_0 : Incidental news stories that havent happened.

TimeTravel_0 : Books not written.

TimeTravel_0 : Small stuff like that.

G° : wow. surely that can't be anything to do with you?

TimeTravel_0 : No.

TimeTravel_0 : By definition, this world line is not the same as mine.

G° : so how come do you think?

TimeTravel_0 : Physics.

TimeTravel_0 : Have you ever been in a room that has mirrors on all the

walls?

G° : you with the infinate worlds with infinate possibilities theory then?

TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!

TimeTravel_0 : Multipole world theory is correct.

G° : like sliders

TimeTravel_0 : Sliders?

G° : tv show

G° : before your time... LOL

TimeTravel_0 : Hmmm...havent seent hat one.

G° : hmmm. I must admit, that theory has always bothered me

TimeTravel_0 : Have you heard of Schrodinger's cat?

G° : I mean, why bother? why create all these slightly different

worlds? no

offence to you, just never liked it.

Yareisa : yes

G° : yes, talking about it the other day

TimeTravel_0 : Well...there's a little joke in 2036.

G° : can't remember though

TimeTravel_0 : If the cat had a distortion machine (time) he may not be in

the box at all.

G° : oh yeah, that was it... LOL

G° : ( i was wondering if you were still ther Yar)

Yareisa : yes, deep in though

Yareisa : thought

G° : sorry, I have to call you Yareisa, I don't like yar....

Yareisa : ok!

G° : so. what can we do for you tonight TT? How come your here?

TimeTravel_0 : I enjoy the "paranormal" chat rooms for 2 reasons.

TimeTravel_0 : 1. I find the people here are more open to ideas.

TimeTravel_0 : 2. I find it ironic that when what they are looking for

falls

in their lap, they can't believe it.

G° : sorry you've been doing all the talking....

8wyrmkin_37 has joined the conversation.

TimeTravel_0 : Its okay,

wyrmkin_37 : hello to room

TimeTravel_0 : I learn a lot from you too.

G° : hi wyrm

Yareisa : hi wyrm

wyrmkin_37 : hey

G° : so who owns the machine TT?

G° : who do you work for?

TimeTravel_0 : The military.

TimeTravel_0 : Im a soldier.

TimeTravel_0 : But civilan time travle is not far off.

G° : do they know your in the year 2000 chatting to us when you should be

returning with the 5110?

TimeTravel_0 : Good question!!!

G° : LOL How would they know?

G° : unless your machine records jumps?

TimeTravel_0 : No...but i will return just seconds after I left from their

point of view.

TimeTravel_0 : I will only age a bit more than expected.

wyrmkin_37 : what matter of singularities?

G° : Imust say, your a very friendly, chatty soldier...

Yareisa : temporal phase shift

Yareisa : oops, thinking aloud again

wyrmkin_37 : anti-matter or dimensional?

TimeTravel_0 : Well...I only fought in the civil war. The military put me

through school and I was qualified for this mission.

TimeTravel_0 : The singularities distort gravity.

TimeTravel_0 : Ill be happy to go through the physics. The basics are

already known.

wyrmkin_37 : please........proceed

Yareisa : please do

TimeTravel_0 : Ok

TimeTravel_0 : In 1967, a physist named Tipler came up with the basic

equations for time travel based on massive rotating cylinders...ever heard

of him?

wyrmkin_37 : in omni?

G° : no, sorry

TimeTravel_0 : no problem...

TimeTravel_0 : are you familiar with black holes and Stephen Halking?

TimeTravel_0 : Sorry...spelling

Yareisa : to some degree, yes

TimeTravel_0 : Ok

wyrmkin_37 : .......a brief history of time

TimeTravel_0 : Yes.

TimeTravel_0 : Black holes distort gravity...which distorts time.

wyrmkin_37 : theory

TimeTravel_0 : At there center is a singularity.

G° : yeah, with you so far

TimeTravel_0 : No...it is proved.

TimeTravel_0 : In 1969, science invented a clock sensitive enough to show

the time difference in a multiple sotry building.

wyrmkin_37 : kewl

TimeTravel_0 : On the first floor...time runs slower due to gravity.

TimeTravel_0 : Clser to the center of the Earth.

wyrmkin_37 : get outa here

G° : also the 2 clocks, one in a plane that flew off and came back

different

to the other one

TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!

G° : ok

wyrmkin_37 : gravitation

TimeTravel_0 : The effect is magnified greatly in a black hole.

TimeTravel_0 : As it turns out...

TimeTravel_0 : If you encounter a black hole that is spinning and has an

electrified field, you will not be killed passing through its massive

gravitational fiuelds.

TimeTravel_0 : regreting asking yet>

Yareisa : no

TimeTravel_0 : Ok

wyrmkin_37 : no

Yareisa : I'm hooked

TimeTravel_0 : In about a year...

G° : is this the omeg point theory?

G° : omega?

TimeTravel_0 : CERN will discover some very odd things as a result of

their

high energy experiments.

TimeTravel_0 : in about a year.

TimeTravel_0 : from your point of view.

wyrmkin_37 : cern?

TimeTravel_0 : in Geneva.

Yareisa : particle accelerator

wyrmkin_37 : oh

TimeTravel_0 : They will accidently create microsingularities.

G° : makes things go round and hit each other...

TimeTravel_0 : Which will evaporate very quickly.

wyrmkin_37 : one in texas?

TimeTravel_0 : and create a massive ammount of X-ray and Gamma rays.

TimeTravel_0 : It will puzzle them for a while.

TimeTravel_0 : Until they figure out how to add and elcrtical charge and

capture these strange odd and massive particles in a magnetic field.

wyrmkin_37 : they shoot electrons at the speed of light.......see what

they

bust up into

TimeTravel_0 : Yes.

G° : still with you...

wyrmkin_37 : quarks

TimeTravel_0 : If you bombard a singularity with electrons...

TimeTravel_0 : you can alter the size of its event horizon.

TimeTravel_0 : and thus its gravitational field.

TimeTravel_0 : By overlapping these fileds from two singularities...

TimeTravel_0 : you can travel forward and backward through time.

TimeTravel_0 : Its actuallyu quyite simple.

wyrmkin_37 : i follow now

TimeTravel_0 : Thats noit the hard part.

G° : didn't tipler say there was no event horizon?

TimeTravel_0 : No..he said it was possible to approach a massive

gravitationl field from certain angles and not get squished.

G° : oh, sorry

wyrmkin_37 : lol

TimeTravel_0 : Actually...Im not really a physisit.

G° : but you know all about this stuff... is that why you were picked?

TimeTravel_0 : I specialize in 20th century history and my grandfather

builds computers.

wyrmkin_37 : what base?

TimeTravel_0 : Hmmm....you drive a car and know how to change the oil

don;t

you?

TimeTravel_0 : I am based in Tampa Fl.

G° : actually, only just.. LOL

wyrmkin_37 : chas, afb

TimeTravel_0 : McDill

wyrmkin_37 : kewl

G° : sorry?

G° : in english?

wyrmkin_37 : zoomies

Yareisa : thats english?!

G° : you airforce wyrm?

wyrmkin_37 : yes

G° : your not working on a time machine are you?

G° : come here for guidance...

wyrmkin_37 : no just came in for chat

TimeTravel_0 : Altering gravity is not the hard part.

G° : LOL

Yareisa : go on...

TimeTravel_0 : Detecting gravity is the hard part.

TimeTravel_0 : I will tell you a littlke story.

TimeTravel_0 : When time travel was invented.

TimeTravel_0 : They built prototypes that would go back in time for a

split

second and then return.

TimeTravel_0 : They had sensors and cameras on them.

TimeTravel_0 : ...and they never returned.

G° : and forwards as well? how about a single jump forwards?

TimeTravel_0 : It was later discovered that the machines were ending up

about 15 miles away and 3000 fett in the air.

TimeTravel_0 : feet

G° : doh!

TimeTravel_0 : The Earth was rotating away from them.

wyrmkin_37 : synchroniaztion please

TimeTravel_0 : A system had to be invented that would "hold" the machine

to

the Earth.

TimeTravel_0 : Its called VGL.

TimeTravel_0 : Its based on very sensative clocks and gravity sensors.

TimeTravel_0 : It stops the time distortion machine if radical changes in

gravity are detected.

wyrmkin_37 : mechanical or electronic clocks

TimeTravel_0 : You wouldn't want to end up inside a mountain or under

water...would you?

TimeTravel_0 : Cesium.

wyrmkin_37 : oh

G° : isn't all this classified? surely your suppoed to keep it secret

whilst

in the past?

TimeTravel_0 : LOL!!!

TimeTravel_0 : I know you think Im nuts...come on.

TimeTravel_0 : Who would believe me?

G° : just asking?

TimeTravel_0 : It my best defense.

wyrmkin_37 : isnt celsium a higher class of quartz? dont know

G° : but we don't have long to find out if you are or not

TimeTravel_0 : Besides...do you know how big a hole 2 sigularites make

when

their magnetic filed colpases?

G° : won't be long before CERN (?) make the discovery

TimeTravel_0 : Thats right.

G° : no

TimeTravel_0 : Welll....either do I. But I don;t want to know.

G° : LOL

wyrmkin_37 : i read omni since it came out and i do want to know

G° : maybe I'll pass on the theory to someone who does their own

experiment

and... BANG!

wyrmkin_37 : lol

TimeTravel_0 : I've been trying.

G° : any joy?

TimeTravel_0 : But Im the crazy yank

wyrmkin_37 : lmao

G° : What do you expect? you didn't tell them you from the future did you?

TimeTravel_0 : You might be interested in this...

G° : if you really wanted to, you should have just passed on the theory

G° : go on....

TimeTravel_0 : Its very hard to convince someone you travel in time unless

you're related to them.

G° : or know something that will happen...

TimeTravel_0 : Good point...but you'de be surprised.

G° : not that I'm asking you to tell me something, cos I don't want you to

TimeTravel_0 : They usually think its your fault.

G° : LOL

G° : bummer...

wyrmkin_37 : very interesting

TimeTravel_0 : That's why I love these chat rooms.

wyrmkin_37 : me too

TimeTravel_0 : I know that nothing I say will make a bit of difference.

wyrmkin_37 : i can drink my jack and coke and learn a few things

G° : not true.. this is the place where you can make a difference.

TimeTravel_0 : Im not feeling sorry for myself.

TimeTravel_0 : Im actually learning to like the people here.

TimeTravel_0 : You have a very bad reputaion in 2036.

wyrmkin_37 : TT........who me?

TimeTravel_0 : lol...in general.

wyrmkin_37 : heard that

G° : how about those 80's lot though. they must be worse...

TimeTravel_0 : Don't get me started.

G° : LOL

TimeTravel_0 : At least your commercials and video games have gotten

beeter

through the years.

G° : and as for the 70's! Sheesh!

wyrmkin_37 : 60's were cool

TimeTravel_0 : Generaly... this period is thought of as the time when they

had it all and squanderd it.

TimeTravel_0 : You diserve your fate.

wyrmkin_37 : but fun was had

TimeTravel_0 : That's true.

TimeTravel_0 : Can I ask you brits a question?

G° : sure

Yareisa : yeah sure

G° : shoot

TimeTravel_0 : When I was a kid...back in 2012...

G° : a good year for cyberpunk...

TimeTravel_0 : I used to watch a DVD called UFO that was made in England.

TimeTravel_0 : Ever heard of it?

G° : oops no, that was 2030, sorry

G° : the tv series? 70's?

wyrmkin_37 : i saw it on regular tv

TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!

TimeTravel_0 : You've seen it?

Yareisa : oh yes I remember that one

TimeTravel_0 : Wow...we do have something in common.

G° : yeah, dreadful outfits!

TimeTravel_0 : No one has heard of it here.

Yareisa : straker wasn't it

G° : and hairstyles!

TimeTravel_0 : I loved that show!

G° : so TT, there is something you can tell me

TimeTravel_0 : Yes?

G° : what happens in December 2012?

wyrmkin_37 : i saw it the good guys were called shadow?

G° : anything?

TimeTravel_0 : Ahhh..the acient miayn prohecies.

G° : the very same

TimeTravel_0 :

wyrmkin_37 : mayans

 


TimeTravel_0 : sorry


 


wyrmkin_37 : ?


 


TimeTravel_0 : Nothing happens...but there is a nuclear war in 2015.


 


G° : bugger


 


TimeTravel_0 : Its not that bad.


 


TimeTravel_0 : The bombs are much cleaner.


 


G° : i guess not


 


wyrmkin_37 : china and russia?


 


TimeTravel_0 : There's a civial war in the US.


 


wyrmkin_37 : whoa?


 


TimeTravel_0 : Russian launches against China, Europe and the US.


 


G° : it was bound to happen sooner or later...


 


TimeTravel_0 : Can;t you see it coming?


 


G° : whatamistaka to maka!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Does anyone read history anymore?


 


wyrmkin_37 : i saw russia and china but not usa


 


TimeTravel_0 : From my point of view...Russia helps us. We win.


 


G° : how so?


 


TimeTravel_0 : But Im a little pissed right now. Is that still the right


 


word?


 


wyrmkin_37 : wheat, money........lets make friends


 


G° : ?


 


TimeTravel_0 : The civil war in the US has two sides.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I fought on one side.


 


G° : they usualy do


 


wyrmkin_37 : proceed sir................


 


TimeTravel_0 : The other side got nuked by Russia.


 


G° : i see


 


G° : not north and south again was it?


 


TimeTravel_0 : In 2036, they are our largets trading partner.


 


TimeTravel_0 : No...more like city angainst country.'


 


wyrmkin_37 : majorities against minorities.......


 


TimeTravel_0 : Yes.


 


TimeTravel_0 : You know...guns versus no guns.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Power versus no power.


 


wyrmkin_37 : time to pour another jack and coke


 


TimeTravel_0 : Un troops versus no UN troops.


 


G° : well, it's been interesting talking to you John, but it's way past my


 


bedtime...


 


Yareisa : what...I've been up 24 hours!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Sleep well.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Youve been very polite.


 


G° : look me up when you get back to 2036 will you?


 


TimeTravel_0 : I will try.


 


G° : if i'm still here


 


TimeTravel_0 : Go north.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Invest in hydrogen fuel cells


 


G° : goodnight Yareisa


 


Yareisa : goodnight G


 


Yareisa : thanks for staying up so early!


 


G° : thanks again TT, goodnight


 


G° : LOL


 


TimeTravel_0 : good night


 


G° : see you again soon


 


Yareisa : yup


 


TimeTravel_0 : Ill be here


 


TimeTravel_0 : Think up some good questions


 


G° puts on his coat and trudges out...


 


Yareisa : bye G


 


8G° has left the conversation.


 


Yareisa : I've given up going to bed now, might as well keep going!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Time is relative.


 


TimeTravel_0 : But sleep....


 


Yareisa : forgotten what sleep is!


 


TimeTravel_0 : What do you do for a living?


 


Yareisa : by day...web site design


 


TimeTravel_0 : Is your family close to you?


 


Yareisa : no


 


TimeTravel_0 : That's the one thing I will never understand about this


 


time.


 


Yareisa : whats that


 


TimeTravel_0 : Don;t you feel alone without them?


 


Yareisa : not really, I'm used to being alone


 


TimeTravel_0 : Its very diffrent in the future.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I can't imagine being without my family.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I don;t know if I should pity or admire you.


 


Yareisa : I'm not sure either!


 


8wyrmkin_37 has returned.


 


Yareisa : wb


 


wyrmkin_37 : hello folks


 


TimeTravel_0 : greetings


 


Yareisa : I am known as a Warrior, I'm used to fighting to survive


 


wyrmkin_37 : been there


 


TimeTravel_0 : In the future, life is organized around the family.


 


wyrmkin_37 : good


 


TimeTravel_0 : and the community.


 


Yareisa : then it looks like I have a problem!


 


TimeTravel_0 : 'I can;t imagine what it's like to live alone.


 


Yareisa : I rather like it actually


 


TimeTravel_0 : If I may ask...why?


 


Yareisa : I can do what I choose, when I choose without having to answer


 


to


 


anyone


 


TimeTravel_0 : What about it appeals to you?


 


wyrmkin_37 : later folks


 


8wyrmkin_37 has left the conversation.


 


TimeTravel_0 : good night


 


Yareisa : Sometimes I miss not having company


 


Yareisa : but I'm very independant


 


TimeTravel_0 : Your answer is typical of the people of your time.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Do you feel you would be hindered by "answerinfg? to


 


someone?


 


TimeTravel_0 : What does that mean?


 


Yareisa : I was hindered, that is why I evicted my husband


 


TimeTravel_0 : Please explain.


 


Yareisa : I am a deeply spiritual person, I needed to grow, to expand, and


 


he stopped me


 


TimeTravel_0 : How...if its not too personal.


 


Yareisa : he was a control freak, I had to do what he told me to do etc


 


TimeTravel_0 : I think you would like the future.


 


Yareisa : why is that


 


TimeTravel_0 : Its a common complainyt that people feel hindered.


 


TimeTravel_0 : In the future, life is more challenging.


 


Yareisa : is it more spiritual?


 


TimeTravel_0 : There is little room for petty problems.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Yes!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Mystery returns to existance.


 


Yareisa : beyond the human


 


TimeTravel_0 : There are fewer luxuries but life is more enjoyable.


 


Yareisa : I never like luxuries anyway


 


Yareisa : I live basically


 


Yareisa : do you consider yourself human


 


TimeTravel_0 : I wish I could show you the time machine and give you hope.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Yes.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I am very different from you.


 


Yareisa : in what way


 


TimeTravel_0 : My life is very different.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I harbor a ccertain ammount of anger toward this time.


 


Yareisa : why


 


TimeTravel_0 : I see an entire population of people who are sleeping.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I fell in love once and she passed away.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I blame you for her death.


 


Yareisa : why


 


TimeTravel_0 : She died of brain cancer.


 


TimeTravel_0 : You may find this interesting.


 


TimeTravel_0 : WHen I was training for "time travel"...


 


TimeTravel_0 : ...a great deal of what we did was pyscholgical training.


 


TimeTravel_0 : In one of our exercises...we had to go back in time and


 


convince "ourselves" to do something we regretted not doing in our own


 


life.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I told myself to get married before she died.


 


TimeTravel_0 : SOmething I was unable to do.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I hate you for that.


 


Yareisa : hate me personally?


 


TimeTravel_0 : Sorry.... I don;t hate you.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I mean this time.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Jacksonville Fl took a direct hit.


 


TimeTravel_0 : The radiation killed her.


 


Yareisa : I cannot say sorry for something that hasn't happened yet, but I


 


am sorry


 


TimeTravel_0 : I talk too much


 


Yareisa : and I don't talk enough


 


TimeTravel_0 : I just wish things didn;t have to happen athey way they


 


will.


 


Yareisa : we cannot change it?


 


TimeTravel_0 : Its too late.


 


Yareisa : I sensed that


 


TimeTravel_0 : I regret what you could have been bot what will result.


 


TimeTravel_0 : not


 


TimeTravel_0 : ...are you drinking?


 


Yareisa : no


 


TimeTravel_0 : I am... orange wine.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I love it.


 


Yareisa : I think my ethereal has taken over, my body has no need for


 


anything more


 


TimeTravel_0 : Are you alone?


 


Yareisa : yes


 


TimeTravel_0 : No children?


 


Yareisa : none


 


TimeTravel_0 : Are you afraid?


 


Yareisa : what of


 


TimeTravel_0 : Being alone?


 


Yareisa : no


 


TimeTravel_0 : I don;t mean to be so perosnal.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I aplogoze.


 


Yareisa : its alright, I'm used to it


 


TimeTravel_0 : To being alone?


 


Yareisa : to being asked personal questions as well!


 


TimeTravel_0 : I appreciate your kindness.


 


Yareisa : ty, but that is my nature


 


TimeTravel_0 : I am familiar with Blue Oyster Cult.


 


Yareisa : oh, you've read my profile?!


 


TimeTravel_0 : I just took a look.


 


TimeTravel_0 : In fact...my father is a big fan.


 


Yareisa : the link to my web site is on there too


 


Yareisa : one of my favourite tracks is, Veterans of the Psychic Wars


 


TimeTravel_0 : Thats quite a webb ste...hold on.


 


Yareisa : k


 


TimeTravel_0 : Im asking my father.


 


TimeTravel_0 : He says thats from "Heavy Metal"?


 


Yareisa : I've got it on a compilation, Workshop of the Telescopes


 


TimeTravel_0 : "Cultosaurus Erectus" is his favorite.


 


TimeTravel_0 : I have no idea what he's taling about.


 


Yareisa : probably best not to, might cause a glitch in the space time


 


contimuum!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Godzillia?


 


Yareisa : yes thats a good one


 


TimeTravel_0 : Hes lauging.


 


TimeTravel_0 : You wacky 20th century freaks.


 


Yareisa : Don't Fear The Reaper is good too, a classic


 


Yareisa : so do I presume the aliens don't come in 2012 then?


 


TimeTravel_0 : Noty that Im aware of.


 


TimeTravel_0 : However...there are plenty of things that will get your


 


attention by 2012.


 


Yareisa : such as...can you say?


 


TimeTravel_0 : My father has a question.


 


Yareisa : go on


 


TimeTravel_0 : What do you think of "club Ninja"? I have no idea what


 


that


 


is.


 


Yareisa : I haven't heard that one


 


Yareisa : I've got Dancing in the ruins on the compilation


 


TimeTravel_0 : He says it was one of their last CDs.


 


Yareisa : yes, then there is Imaginos


 


Yareisa : I've just started to collect them again, used to have some


 


albums,


 


getting CD's now


 


TimeTravel_0 : Revolutoin by night? What's that.


 


Yareisa : another album


 


TimeTravel_0 : I see.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Perhaps you should talk to my father.


 


Yareisa : I could get confused!


 


Yareisa : Actually, I will have to go soon, its nearly 6 in the morning


 


here...


 


Yareisa : I got up at 5 in the morning on Friday


 


TimeTravel_0 : I hope to talk to yoiu again.


 


Yareisa : I would like that


 


TimeTravel_0 : Cheer up.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Things get better.


 


TimeTravel_0 : Get some sleep.


 


Yareisa : I will!


 


TimeTravel_0 : Good night.


 


Yareisa : good night


 


8TimeTravel_0 has left the conversation


 
You exchanged emails with Yareisa?

I tried looking her up based on the name years ago, found what I thought was possibly the right person on Facebook (web/graphic designer from the UK?). I don't remember why I didn't try reaching out - Did she say anything interesting, or just "yeah that was me"?

 
You probably found the correct Yareisa. She is/was an artist/web designer. When I did my Google search I recall that there was only a couple of references to "Yareisa" and that's how I found her. Today there are dozens of Google hits but they all point to the IRC log.

She was really reluctant to say much at all, even when she posted the few times that she did. She really got spooked by Boomer, the author. It wasn't the time travel story or the World War III story he told. It was the person doing the writing - she didn't like Boomer. For the most part all she really did was verify that the IRC log was real, the conversation took place as stated on the log, the log was accurate and she didn't believe the story.

She was only on Anomalies for a few weeks and then stopped posting. Because we received the IRC log anonymously we never were able to find what site it came from thus we were unable to contact G or Wyrm, the other two people in the chatroom. I did some Google searches cr. 2010-2011 but there just wasn't enough information on the log to find the site (Google searching "G" was not very useful :cool: ). I've never come across any posts or comments indicating that G or Wyrm became aware that they were part of the Titor Saga and posted anything about it.

What was interesting is that she profiled much like Pamela - young woman, kind of a hippie, a bit of a snowflake, usually open to just about anything "abnormal". Unlike Pamela she quickly got a bad vibe from Boomer and took action...she stopped communicating with him. She never said what it was, exactly, that creaped her out about Boomer but it was significant enough for her to refrain from communicating with me for years after I first attempted contact.

 
OK Folks,

I went back to my HDD drive collection looking for 2005 archives of certain threads from Anomalies.net. I found a thread Yareisa posted on. I have further information on Yareisa that I had actually long ago forgotten about.  Yes, she is/was a web designer living in England.  Her handle on Anomalies was MysticWarrior.  Recall that in the IRC Log she said she was a Warrior.  I've copied the "Is It Time to Close the 'Titor Files' " thread below.  Keep in mind that in this thread I clarify that I wasn't proposing deleting or locking the threads.  The object was to say Yes or No that it was a hoax and if a hoax to close the "Titor File" as an ongoing investigation by the Anomalies staff:

Topic: Is It Time To Close The "Titor Files"?

Darby

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posted November 26, 2005 21:59                      

I asked a similar question a few years ago (even though I believed at the time that it was too soon to make the call).

But we are now at the end of 2005.

1. There have been no Weekly Wacky Waco Incidents,

2. There was nothing close to unusual civil unrest during the 2004 elections.

3. Titor said that he time traveled to 1975 to obtain an IBM 5100 computer.

4. In some posts he said "5110" but when questioned about the discrepancy he said it was a typo - he meant IBM 5100, not 5110.

5. Pamela asked him to sent her something that had time traveled. He sent he the manufacturer's label from the PC that he obtained in 1975. It was a label from an IBM 5110 (it said IBM 5110 on it). The 5110 was not invented until 1978.

6. Western Civilization doesn't seem to be on the verge of collapsing due to instability during the next five weeks (what is left of 2005) as Titor predicted.

7. Titor predicted that the 2004 Olympics were the last known Games. The 2006 Olympics are on track to be held in Italy this winter.

8. vCJD (Mad Cow Disease) hasn't become a pandemic disease as Titor predicted.

9. An attorney who runs a movie production company is the general manager and probably the founder of the John Titor Foundation who claims to represent the family of John Titor.

So I ask the question again: Isn't it time to label this case "Debunked" and to move on?

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posted November 27, 2005 12:03                          Case closed.

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posted November 27, 2005 14:50                       Yep, Titor is history.

HehehehhahahahHAHAHAhahahaha...giggle,snort..urk...urk...THUD.

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posted November 27, 2005 18:01                       Who is Titor?

-T


...no really, I would like to know who he is.

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Darby

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posted November 27, 2005 21:03                       OK...

I'll let this run for a while. Considering the "fast" pace that my humble(d) TT forum has been running at lately I don't think that there's much chance that this thread will get lost by dropping off of the front page in the near future.



Einstein,

I hear you re. the poll. Back in 2003 and again in 2004 I ran "Is Titor Real" polls. On another site last week they ran the same poll.

All three polls, 2003, 2004 and 2005 had virtually identical results:

75% Titor is a Hoax
10% Titor is Real
15% Undecided

Over time the "Undecided" have moved toward "Hoax". The "Reals" have stayed fairly consistent but have recently dropped to 10%.

On some other sites you can see what the "Reals" believe. They are now talking abouot Steven Gibbs, the HDR and how they are able to verify Titor by astral time travel. Oh, boy...

ExpandedMind has it correct *!%@ Thud!

On a serious note, once we decide to make the call I'll have to "write it up". We obviously can't, after almost six years, say "Its over. We say its a hoax so it's a hoax. So there."

I'm going to announce on some of the other sites that we have this plan in mind. And, yes, I'll also invite the Titorites to make their plea or statement.

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posted November 28, 2005 02:33                         

There's no need to close the files, they don't exist, or wont exist once I've nipped back in time to my chat with the darned time traveller and told him he's a hoax

So take a last look...still here?

Bother, mission failed!

Shana

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posted November 28, 2005 23:50                      

Shana,

Tee-hee-hee...don't make me soil my armor, woman.

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posted November 28, 2005 23:55                       Shana,

On a serious note, thank you for coming here. As far as we can tell it was you, and not the members of TTI, whom Titor first contacted with his story.

No matter what anyone thinks of Titor's story (real or hoax)it has taken on a life worldwide that has been shared by thousands of people...and you are an integral part of the story.

It would have been nice to have had "G degrees" come on with you.

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posted November 29, 2005 05:21                      

quote: I'm going to announce on some of the other sites that we have this plan in mind. And, yes, I'll also invite the Titorites to make their plea or statement.

Bring 'em on!

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posted November 29, 2005 05:38                         

quote:Originally posted by Darby:
Shana,

On a serious note, thank you for coming here. As far as we can tell it was you, and not the members of TTI, whom Titor first contacted with his story.

No matter what anyone thinks of Titor's story (real or hoax)it has taken on a life worldwide that has been shared by thousands of people...and you are an integral part of the story.

It would have been nice to have had "G degrees" come on with you.

Suprised you managed to post with your rusty armour

"G degrees" was a good friend, he lives in Leeds, we met in the real world after chatting online. A lovely lad, good and honest. For some strange reason after my b/friend moved in, he never spoke to me again, men are sooooo weird!

As you may know, my approach to the Titor business is from the spiritual side of things. After all, that was roughly the subject matter of the chat room I had, psychic, aliens, the usual conspiracy stuff.

I've probably mentioned before that his was not the only strange meeting I had in chat around that time. So it didn't seem out of place, at the time.

I'm now trying to move away from that kind of stuff, but as fast as I move in one direction, it finds me from another. Personally, I've always felt there was some reason why I had that chat with Titor, and more specifically, why I kept a copy of the chat. Something I've never done before, or since. It was a milestone, a marker for future reference, that's all I know.

So I think to come to a decision about whether it's real or a hoax, all I can say is that the chat really happened, it's what people did with it after that's the hoax.

Shana

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posted December 07, 2005 04:07                       I think it was closed a long time ago. I'll not shed a tear at it's official demise.

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Give some details on how and why they came up with this adventure.
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Rate Member posted January 02, 2006 04:15                       Lock up the files and toss away the key.

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posted January 03, 2006 18:37                       AuralCommune,
 

quote:Where's Pamela? Once this is considered "debunked" by you darby, will you fess up your private info. And will she, and the others?

I don't know where Pamela "is". She no longer posts here and, frankly, she rarely posts anywhere anymore. Even Pamela eventually got burned out on the Titor Saga.

As to posting private information, for my part, the answer is no. It isn't a matter of the story being closed out as an Internet hoax. Its a matter of privacy agreements (under TOS rules). Titor was covered under those rules and I cannot break them. He does have an attorney, you know. And the attorney is the business manager for John Titor Foundation enterprises. Hear what I'm saying?

Will Pamela divulge her private information? According to what she's said in the past, no. But that's up to Pamela - not me.

Will Rick Donaldson divulge his information? According to Rick, yes. At some point in time he plans to divulge his inforamtion. He didn't come about his information via the same route that I received mine. His information, apparently (he hasn't divulged the contents to me), is not covered by TOS & Privacy agreements.

The real question is, do you really need to know who was behind Titor? If you learned, for instance, that it was a teenage boy and his father & friends would your life be any better or even different?

The Titor Saga is no different than any other Internet time travel story with this exception: The Anomalies staff set out to keep the story alive once Art Bell's BBS closed. Titor was gone in as much as posting under his "I am from 2036" handles (which doesn't mean that he stopped posting - he didn't). He made no further contributions to the story after March of 2000. Your staff here (and Pamela while she was on staff at Anomalies) kept the story alive when it was D.O.A. By the end of 2000 the Titor Saga was a dead issue. It was only being discussed here and even here it was not a really hot topic. The Time Travel Institute BBS was a mess...an absolute travesty. They weren't discussing anything there.

So we kept the story alive. Why? Why not. It kept up interest in the TT board if nothing else. Ultimately it appears that our efforts to keep the story alive inspired both Oliver Williams (JohnTitor.com) and Larry Haber (John Titor Foundation) to take a crack at Titor fame. And it inspired a host of sites to take up the Titor story on their BBS systems. It became a worldwide hit to some degree. Titor didn't cause that, Oliver Williams didn't cause that and Larry Haber didn't cause that to happen. Anomalies.net, its staff and "old hand" regular members who came with us from Post-2-Post made that happen.

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posted January 03, 2006 18:42                       BTW:

Relative to my comments above about Time Trravel Institute:

I didn't just let TTI go under because it was a mess. The owner of TTI, Raul Burriel, is my professional friend and associate. I contacted him and annouced my observations about how his site was fairing. I then suggested a couple of names for moderators (he had none). He took my input in stride and asked one of the original Titor "old hands" to be his moderator (Roel van Houten from the Netherlands). He happened to be one of the people that I recommended.

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posted January 09, 2006 16:39                       Thought this was over long ago

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posted January 09, 2006 22:12                       Steve,

Its not quite over - we haven't reached the Omega Point.

But its close. I did receive, BTW, an inquiry from an indy film company in Japan who might be working a deal with Sony to produce a film about Titor.

Why? I don't know. In my reply I let them know that another film exec/attorney (Haber) already represents that his "client" has certain copyrights, that he is the business manager for JTF and that they might want to contact Mr. haber. I'm waiting for a reply.

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The cool thing is I heard about Titor on the mainstream news i was around 20. Then I was reminded about him from the anime Steins Gate. Although it had a bit of a twist. Now 23 years later I find what started it all.

 
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The cool thing is I heard about Titor on the mainstream news i was around 20. Then I was reminded about him from the anime Steins Gate. Although it had a bit of a twist. Now 23 years later I find what started it all.

Unfortunately I didn't see your message a year ago. I'll respond anyway just in case you lurk the forum:

No, the IRC log from Yareisa is not the beginning of The Titor Saga. The story began on July 29, 1998 when Titor sent a fax to Art Bell concerning CERN and Y2K. He then did a follow-up fax in 2000. The long delay was because Art Bell "retired" for the first time shortly after the 1998 fax and didn't return for almost 2 years. I'll insert the faxes below though there is a thread somewhere in this part of the forum that already has the faxes.

In the initial fax (1998) Titor said Y2K would [in the USA] be a huge disaster, many people would freeze to death because of the power failures and the government would impose matial law. "A few years later a communal government system is developed after the constitution takes a few twists. China retakes Taiwan, Israel wins the largest battle for their life and Russia is covered in Nuclear snow from their collapsed reactors." In his later posts he clarified that "a few years later" meant 2004. Of course none of that occurred.

Here are the faxes:

Art Bell, during his radio show Coast-to-Coast AM, read these two faxes on air during his show:

FAX ONE: 29-JUL-1998

Dear Art,

I had to fax when I heard other time travelers calling in from any time past the year 2500 AD.

please let me explain....

Time travel was invented in 2034 off shoots of certain successful fusion reactor research allowed scientists at CERN to produce the worlds first contained singularity engine. The basic design involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field. By altering the speed and direction of rotation you can travel both forward and backward in time.

time itself can be understood in terms of connected lines. When you go back in time you travel on your original time line when you turn the singularity engine off a new time line is created due to the fact that you and your time machine are now there.

In other words a new universe is created. To get back to your original line you must travel a split second farther back and immediately throw the engine into forward without turning it off.

some interesting outcomes of this are: you meet yourself I have done it often even taken a younger version of myself along for a few rides before returning myself to the new timeline and going back to mine.

You can alter history in the new universe that you have just created. Most of the time the changes are subtle. the oldest one was a sky scraper that don't exist in New York .
Interestingly when you travel in time you must compensate for the orbit of the Earth since the time machine doesn't move you have to adjust the engine so you remain on the planet when you turn it off.

Now for the future you might want to know about..Y2K is a disaster . Many people die on the highways when they freeze to death trying to get to warmer weather. The gov. tries to keep power by instituting marshal law but all of it collapses when their efforts to bring the power back up fail.

A few years later a communal government system is developed after the constitution takes a few twists. China retakes Taiwan, Israel wins the largest battle for their life and Russia is covered in Nuclear snow from their collapsed reactors.

FAX TWO: Apr-2000

Dear Mr. Bell I am glad you 're back. I faxed this information to you the day before you left the air. I wanted to make sure it wasn't lost in the shuffle so I am sending a gift.

If you've already seen this please accept my apologies if you choose to make this public please do not publish the fax number. I had to fax when I heard the other time traveler calling in from the recent time past in fact the year 2500 Ad.

Let me explain...

Mr. Bell I sent a fax with this opening on July 29 1998. As I said then I am a time traveler. I have been on this world line since April of this year and I plan to leave soon. Typically time travelers do not purposely affect the world lines they visit. However this mission is unusually long and I've grown attached to some of the people I have met here. (isn't that the Stockholm syndrome or something? - Art says)
Anyway for my own reasons I have decided to help this world line by sharing information about the future with a few people in the hope that it will help their future. I am contacting you for the same reason. Unfortunately there is no historical reference to your program in my world line.

I believe you can change your future by creating one now. Some of the information presented on your program maybe invaluable to upline researchers. I suggest you isolate the programs that concentrate on military technology and new physics theories. Transcribe these programs and put them someplace safe away from the box. I recommend someplace in the mid west. (away from the box what does he mean?-art says) I also urge you to reconsider your paranoia to the Russians (I am not paranoid about the Russians) They are not preparing for war with the average US citizen. They are preparing for war with the US government. They will eventually save this country and the lives of million of Americans. I realize my claims are a bit difficult to accept so I will send the following once I know you have received this fax. A few pages from the operations manual of my time machine. And a few colored photographs of my vehicle.( alright so you know I got it send them along.-art says)

If you wish to contact me I will be happy to share with you the nature of time , the physics of time travel and some of the events of your future.(God I hadn't read this earlier..) Please send a return package to...

[At this point Art Bell explains that he would not read the address on air]
 
@Darby thank you for finding this stuff again - I've had it up a few times in the past, but you know how TTI is :p

I've put some of this together here:

If you have the inclination, I can also make you a co-owner of that article so you can add whatever else you have, or think should be there.
 
Unfortunately I didn't see your message a year ago. I'll respond anyway just in case you lurk the forum:

No, the IRC log from Yareisa is not the beginning of The Titor Saga. The story began on July 29, 1998 when Titor sent a fax to Art Bell concerning CERN and Y2K. He then did a follow-up fax in 2000. The long delay was because Art Bell "retired" for the first time shortly after the 1998 fax and didn't return for almost 2 years. I'll insert the faxes below though there is a thread somewhere in this part of the forum that already has the faxes.

In the initial fax (1998) Titor said Y2K would [in the USA] be a huge disaster, many people would freeze to death because of the power failures and the government would impose matial law. "A few years later a communal government system is developed after the constitution takes a few twists. China retakes Taiwan, Israel wins the largest battle for their life and Russia is covered in Nuclear snow from their collapsed reactors." In his later posts he clarified that "a few years later" meant 2004. Of course none of that occurred.

Here are the faxes:

Art Bell, during his radio show Coast-to-Coast AM, read these two faxes on air during his show:

FAX ONE: 29-JUL-1998

Dear Art,

I had to fax when I heard other time travelers calling in from any time past the year 2500 AD.

please let me explain....

Time travel was invented in 2034 off shoots of certain successful fusion reactor research allowed scientists at CERN to produce the worlds first contained singularity engine. The basic design involves rotating singularities inside a magnetic field. By altering the speed and direction of rotation you can travel both forward and backward in time.

time itself can be understood in terms of connected lines. When you go back in time you travel on your original time line when you turn the singularity engine off a new time line is created due to the fact that you and your time machine are now there.

In other words a new universe is created. To get back to your original line you must travel a split second farther back and immediately throw the engine into forward without turning it off.

some interesting outcomes of this are: you meet yourself I have done it often even taken a younger version of myself along for a few rides before returning myself to the new timeline and going back to mine.

You can alter history in the new universe that you have just created. Most of the time the changes are subtle. the oldest one was a sky scraper that don't exist in New York .
Interestingly when you travel in time you must compensate for the orbit of the Earth since the time machine doesn't move you have to adjust the engine so you remain on the planet when you turn it off.

Now for the future you might want to know about..Y2K is a disaster . Many people die on the highways when they freeze to death trying to get to warmer weather. The gov. tries to keep power by instituting marshal law but all of it collapses when their efforts to bring the power back up fail.

A few years later a communal government system is developed after the constitution takes a few twists. China retakes Taiwan, Israel wins the largest battle for their life and Russia is covered in Nuclear snow from their collapsed reactors.

FAX TWO: Apr-2000

Dear Mr. Bell I am glad you 're back. I faxed this information to you the day before you left the air. I wanted to make sure it wasn't lost in the shuffle so I am sending a gift.

If you've already seen this please accept my apologies if you choose to make this public please do not publish the fax number. I had to fax when I heard the other time traveler calling in from the recent time past in fact the year 2500 Ad.

Let me explain...

Mr. Bell I sent a fax with this opening on July 29 1998. As I said then I am a time traveler. I have been on this world line since April of this year and I plan to leave soon. Typically time travelers do not purposely affect the world lines they visit. However this mission is unusually long and I've grown attached to some of the people I have met here. (isn't that the Stockholm syndrome or something? - Art says)
Anyway for my own reasons I have decided to help this world line by sharing information about the future with a few people in the hope that it will help their future. I am contacting you for the same reason. Unfortunately there is no historical reference to your program in my world line.

I believe you can change your future by creating one now. Some of the information presented on your program maybe invaluable to upline researchers. I suggest you isolate the programs that concentrate on military technology and new physics theories. Transcribe these programs and put them someplace safe away from the box. I recommend someplace in the mid west. (away from the box what does he mean?-art says) I also urge you to reconsider your paranoia to the Russians (I am not paranoid about the Russians) They are not preparing for war with the average US citizen. They are preparing for war with the US government. They will eventually save this country and the lives of million of Americans. I realize my claims are a bit difficult to accept so I will send the following once I know you have received this fax. A few pages from the operations manual of my time machine. And a few colored photographs of my vehicle.( alright so you know I got it send them along.-art says)

If you wish to contact me I will be happy to share with you the nature of time , the physics of time travel and some of the events of your future.(God I hadn't read this earlier..) Please send a return package to...

[At this point Art Bell explains that he would not read the address on air]

Please help me out here with the original contact date timing for Coadt2CoastAM. Single 7 calls Art Bell in July of 1998. Art Bell announces on air that he received a fax from John Titor in October 1998. Was that fax sent in late July immediately after Single 7 called Art Bell? If so, why did Art wait 3 months to mention the fax on air?

 
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